Artest and Spree never knocked-up 13 year-old girls and then left them either. Malone's a dirty, sleazy, whiny, choking drama queen and seeing him going for a chanpionship in Spurs gear would make me want to puke my ing guts out.
If he's in SA I'm Cavs fan until Malone's gone.
Spurs can win it all without him, even if he signs with Wolves or Miami. So i hope Malone joines KG or Shaq, cause our victories will be even sweeter.
The only reason Spurs dont win a champinship with the cuurent team is if their nuts shrink (shooting %) in the Playoffs. In that case they don't deserve to be champions.
malone, we are doing fine without you!
Malone is not nearly as evil as he is a drama queen and sleazy. From a character perspective I do not want him on my favourite team.
Now trying to be neutral or as some posters have put it thinking with my head I still have problems with a few point that were made:
- I do not think he has proved that he's willing to put the team first during his stay with the Lakers, what I think he's proved was that he'll do anything for the ring. During last season he was still in the spot light and selling his warrior BS to the Media.
- IF he's willing to be a role player in the Spurs line up and come from the bench with limited minutes he would be an asset to the team. It's a VERY BIG IF!!! and frankly I do not believe he would do it without running his mouth off in the media - and THAT would influence team chemistry.
- Historically he's been a good performer for the teams he's played for (even last year) but historically he has almost never been injured. I think it's a new situation for him and I'm not convinced he could be a good performer starting late in the season - I have to agree with Kori's question because of that.
- I like the idea of signing and benching him just to prevent the others to get him - but seriously what are the odds for that to happen? And even if Pop tried can you imagine what Malone would do in the media? And would it not impact the team?
So I do not think his a good choice. And I'm quite hapy about not having him on our team.
Well said, I agree. Just thought I'd add my vote to the whole thing.
TimVP, Base and all the other Malone haters are right. He is a drama queen, he probably is washed up, and most importantly, he will totally alter the chemistry of this team.
Karl will say something stupid and bizarre by Spurs standards before it's all said and one...something like, I didn't come here to play D and rebound....before it's over with he will accuse the Spurs of dissing him...like he has every other team.
This is Karl's way of getting out of his promise to go to the Lakers and also his way of keeping his name in the news.
But you cannot under-estimate the change he will have on the team chemistry.
Malone is a legend to a lot of these young guys on the Spurs, he will make minutes even more hard to come by, and IMO, he will complain if he isn't getting his minutes, even if he doesn't deserve them...and just by default he will undermine Pop authority.
He will say something like, I didn't come here to be Kevin Willis.
He did alter LA's chemistry, Shaq and Kobe went from being world beaters to acting like two kids trying to impress their father, they got in a childish contest trying to show Malone who the man was on that team and it was the final straw in the LA dynasty.
But it's a done deal if Pop wants it, so you might as well accept, like some other things some of us are going to have to accept in umpcoming seasons...
One bright side...Karl Malone hasn't done as much damage to Spurs players as Juwan Howard...it could be argued that Howard was responsible for the 01 loss and us having to play LA in the second round last season. I hate Juwan Howard every bit as much as Malone and at least if we have Malone we have a PF who is going to make Juwan think twice about who he injures.
Overall, I don't like Malone, I was against bringing him here before I was for it, but what ever I said earlier...doing it now, Karl Malone will totally alter the chemistry on this team.
Kobe says Karl is not a demi-God. Karl's feelings are hurt bad. It's a double tragedy because the Lakers have no chance at a le either. I guess there's nothing to do but to piggyback on a team that's good enough for Karl.
barry has not gotten the pop system yet do you think mailman could in shorter time?
Jerome Kersey downright abused Sean Elliott (more than Larry Brown if possible) in that '90 playoff series.
Mario Elie played on underdog teams that punked the Spurs out of the playoffs not once but twice. The first time was hard since that was the first playoffs after the 7 game series loss to Portland (before .4* there was "no look").
Robert Horry deserves his own special place in Spurs fan for his participation in three eliminations of the Spurs from the playoffs, two of which were brutal considering that they were the conference finals, the Spurs enjoyed homecourt, and the Spurs were favored.
Had the Spurs not lost that coin flip with Utah back in the '85 NBA Draft then San Antonio would have been on the nuts of Malone all of these years instead of David Robinson.
There is plenty of precedent of Spur Killers joining the Spurs at the end of their career as role players and Spur fans not only tolerating them but embracing them. Not that I expect that Malone would be welcomed warmly but after about 10 games of him showing Radosoft how a big man plays in the paint and a few dives after loose balls Spurs fans would forget or rationalize the past much like they have done with Horry, Elie, Porter, and Kersey. Those guys were just hired guns and so would be the case with Malone.
There are reasons why to be concerned about a Malone signing and that begins first with his health and then proceeds to the effect he would have on team chemistry. But as someone who utterly hated seeing his ass drop the Spurs in the playoffs not one, not two, but three times if he's healthy and committed to winning a championship I say sign him up.
Look at it this way: the only way Karl Malone could win a NBA Championship would be to become a Spur.
Last edited by Marcus Bryant; 12-08-2004 at 09:36 AM.
If thats the case, you were a pretty weak Spurs fan.If he's in SA I'm Cavs fan until Malone's gone.
In fact, you weren't a true one to begin with.
I've never truly hated guys whose only crime was beating us in the post season. I might hate those guys right after they do it, for a decade or so, but it's not permanent.
Malone has done other stuff outside of beating us.
I was glad when we signed Horry and Elie, I'd have been glad if we had signed Fish to be 3rd string. Malone is different. Guys like him and Juwan Howard...it's very hard to accept those guys on this team. And the only reason I could live with Malone is because I have an equal hatred of Juwan Howard and hope to see them kill each other on the court.
On top of that...Elie and Horry had rings, Malone is the anti-ring.
We really don't need his services to improve the play of this team and I think our chemistry has nowhere to go but down if we add him to the mix. IMO, any huge movement to bring him here is misguided becase he's not going to improve the teams play much...if at all, and he will probably hurt it.
Besides, wouldn't you actually like to beat Malone in the playoffs for once?
Wouldn't it be nice to end his final quest at a ring?
Reasons against getting Karl Malone:
Could be bad for chemistry.
Could be washed up.
Could take spot and minutes from other 3rd stringer?
Could get injured easily.
Reasons for getting Karl Malone:
If healthy, is good, tough player.
Could be good for chemistry.
Can be valuable in playoffs.
THE #1 reason!
Keep him away from the Wolves, Dallas, or anyone else!
I hate him too. But it does make sense. For pennies a day you can feed a hungry Malone.
Why don't we just relax on this until Jan-Feb.? By then we will have played PHO, MIN, @ SAC, IND, @ PHO, in short several more real tests. Right now we have won 16 games, 9 of them against the East. Let's find out how good we really are and then make judgements about needing Malone. There are only two teams I really think can beat the Spurs...Min and Det. And, these are both teams that Malone would definitely help against. But if we sail through the next 20 games, thenI agree why screw with a winning formula? But, if it appears that Minn's front line presents a problem then why not consider Malone to beat on KG?
when was the last time spurs mentioned they still wanted him?
What is going on with the NBA....It's full of whiny egotistical es....kobe included...he needs a new PR guy. What he said was innocent...however opened the wound of conjecture. Am I pissed, yes. How fragile does your ego get (Karl) after that kind of comment. LA doesn't need him at this time anyway...I would like it, but it's time to move on and get rid of all the people close to Shaq and Phil.
Kobe says....
It's the girls fault.
It's Shaq's fault.
It's Phil's fault.
It's Karl's fault.
It's _ _ _ _ _ _ fault.
How good can he be at this point in his career anyway? I know he did very well for the Lakers last year in playoffs (until he got injured), but when a 41 year old man takes half a season off to heal his injuries, can he really still contribute in any way? He could just aswell ruin team chemistry (to an extent) and bring his reknowned satanic karma to a team that is already looking destined to win it all.
I think he could still be very good even this far into the season. The reason?? Duncan. He will always draw double team that will free up malone for jumpers or even space to drive the lane. Brent has struggled with his open shots, but this is malone. He is probably one of the most confident players in his game.
As for the people mentioning the spurs' record. This trade thing will not happen till january or just before the all star break. Let's see how the spurs play then and if there still this good then they shouldn't mess with team chemistry.
However bringing in malone could benefit rasho. I mean we're talking about our future center that doesn't even know when to dunk the damn ball. If we don't need malone for production, we need him to toughen up rasho or perhaps help other players grow.
I don't see how Malone would ruin our team chemistry. He did a lot of behind the scenes work in LA to make peace. I think he is a team player and hard worker. Pop would be a good coach for him since they both have a no nonsense business like at ude. Even if we get him and he sucks, or never returns, think of it as Blackjack insurance for only a tiny amount of dough.
Malone didn't toughen Ostertag up.
And Rasho's not soft anyway, ask Kobe. Yeah he could dunk more...but that's about it.
yeah and we see how that ended up
I'm sure glad you guys aren't in Spurs management...
If Malone would agree to sign a one year vet minimum contract with the Spurs they simply can't say no...
It's addition by subtraction...a healthy Malone on the TWolves or Mavs just makes it that much harder for the Spurs to get back to the finals...Malone may be a little outspoken but he is also a hard working professional with a huge basketball IQ...anyone that thinks he wouldn't fit in with the Spurs system is letting their Malone hate override their basketball savvy...
Good one. But seriously, if Phil Jackson can't control Kobe then who the can? Malone helped keep them together during the season. The Spurs have none of those ego/jackass problems.yeah and we see how that ended up
MALONE makes winning basket first round playoffs: LOVE HIM
MALONE makes winning basket second round playoffs:LOVE HIM
MALONE makes winning basket WCF LOVE HIM
MALONE makes winning basket NBA FINALS PRICELESS
either you love to have him with the SPURS or hate him
Just say NO to Malone
It's not as simple as you think....I seriously doubt Malone is going to be the same player he was even last season, he does not start on this team...and I see him having the potential to be a disruptive force on this team if he is not getting the star treatment....and I don't think he's going to hustle like Malik does either. He also seems to be devloping a nasty habit of reminding everyone ad nauseum that he is discounting his services... that's hardly a unique occurence on this team. I don't think he's going to like it here and I don't want him ing up the team if he doesn't.
I agree with base, I think Kobe was right...Kobe just said the same things most Spursfans said...you can't put the season on hold for Malone...to me Karl is the clear ass in this situation.
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