and thank you, mavs vs suns is great basketball, i love to root against you guys as much as the spurs...
i'll fight to the bitter death for my squad, past has nothing to do with present. it goes more like this homie
spurs> mavs=suns
cause going to the finals and getting bounced directlly after by an 8 seed has to cancel out anything you got on phoenix 2006 and all
Poor guy. His upbringing was tough. I'm sure all the WWII vets still alive would love for you to regale them with tales about how hard a life Amare Stoudemire's lived.
This is about the extent of my sympathy for him -
And excuse me for being cynical, but I'm sure that professors at ARIZONA STATE are going to be really tough on a member of the PHOENIX SUNS.
Why do you have to hate on a kid who is trying to better himself? He doesn't have to go to college but he wants to. Try not hating on players who try to improve themselves.
The S0ns are not contenders. They fall into the second tier of the Western Conference along with the Jazz, Rockets, and Nuggets.
National media? LOL you S0ns fans must be desperate. This is the same media that gave Nash 2 undeserved MVPs. The same media that ranked Nash higher all-time than Gary Payton(are you ing kidding me...prime GP would rape Steve Nash). The same media that lumps heaps of praise upon Nash yet conveniantly ignore his defensive shortcomings. The real NBA fans know that the only way the S0ns would ever have a shot at making the Finals is for another team like the Mavs to eliminate the Spurs. Even then I'm doubtful of the S0ns chances as the Jazz torched 'em in the reg season and the Mavs spilt their series with 'em.
Oh yeah. LOL at the topic. I knew Amare's stupidity had to be rooted in his childhood. Him coming from a family of thugs and cons doesn't surprise me.
What I meant is, our three-year body of work is more impressive than yours. And the Spurs' three-year body of work trumps both Phoenix and Dallas.
Over the past three years, the Spurs have two les and have bounced you guys twice. Dallas has a Finals appearance and has both team's scalps on the wall. You guys beat us once and made it to the conference finals twice. And it's not like we're completely hopeless against the Suns with Amare. We don't have an answer for the Nash and Amare pic n roll, but we didn't have an answer for Duncan either and managed to get past San Antonio.
You just don't match up well against San Antonio. I'm not convinced this incarnation of the Suns can ever beat Duncan's Spurs. You have to hope they get knocked out by somebody else. Since Shaq/Kobe are no longer around and Stockton/Malone aren't either, that leaves Dirk's Mavs. By the same token, I prefer not to run into the Suns in the playoffs with a healthy Amare. We just don't defend him on the pic n roll well at all. We're certainly capable of beating you guys in a playoff series, but I'd rather take my chances with San Antonio, twisted as that sounds. Which is why we blew it bigtime. Suns-Spurs on one side of the bracket and homecourt against the winner, which was certain to be against the team we match up better, and we blew it. There were valid X's and O's reasons for us losing to Golden State, but it bothers me that they quit in Game Six. A trade isn't going to fix that. The only silver lining is that we're a young team and capable of learning from it.
Just to clarify, I meant in a playoff series
Truth hurts, but you are a second tier team. The mavs are the ONLY team that has proved they can play with the Spurs. I hope to see a Spurs vs. Mavs Western Conference finals next year.
They did that actually in 2005. You mean Suns over Mavs, right?
Findog,
From you this is really a low blow. You know the Suns have done a lot more than the Toronto Raptors ever have. Also, what is this copying that "Johnny Ringo" way of spelling the Phoenix Suns name? I had you pegged for a more classy guy than this.
when you have one of the best road records in the last three years, homecourt advantage becomes meaningless. playing on the road seems like it makes you hungirer, it's good for the blood, and the great teams thrive on that. i like my chances against both. you have our "scalps on the wall" without amare playing. with him healthy we are exactly what you said a match-up problem. a fair chance of seeing both the spurs and the suns play a complete wcsf last year was robbed from us, a break that didn't go our way. i don't buy the mavs last 3 years trumps the suns, not one bit.
You are seriously mistaken if you think the Phoenix Suns are a second tier team. Of all the teams the Spurs played this year in the playoffs we gave them the most trouble.
Concerning Gary Payton, he may have been a great defender in his prime but he was no where near the player that Nash has turned into.
I know you think you are cute with the way you spell the Phoenix Suns name but it is wearing thin. How old are you anyway, twelve??
Yeah, I apologize for that. yourcheatinheart just trolls relentlessly, calls my team a bunch of heartless chokers. I've been hearing it for two months from him and countless others. I have a bad habit of getting suckered into these kinds of exchanges in my zeal to stick up for my team.
Truth be told, I have much respect for the Suns and don't want any part of them in a playoff series. Anyways, good luck to your team next year.
They've beat the Spurs last year AND made it to the Finals. The suns have yet to do either, so yeah their accomplishments trump yours. Come'on now...
Mavs are a great road team as well. And I honestly don't believe the suspensions cost your team the series, anymore than Game Five against the Heat cost us the Finals. The Spurs won three games just fine against Phoenix with Amare in there versus your two wins. It's not automatic that the Suns win Game Five with him playing. The Spurs are a bad matchup for you guys, just as you guys are for us.
But we've done something you haven't: beaten a heavyweight and made it to the Finals.
Thanks. I'm not sure who this "yourcheatinheart" guy is, but I understand your frustration with him. I feel the same way about him and a few other guys on this board. I just want to talk basketball, not slam everyone personally. Good luck to your team also.
who cares.
i'm just relentless when it comes to defending my team homie. i get alot of for my suns and i go down swinging everytime. honestly, i have no one to thank but the mavs. these last 3 years with Nash have been some of the greatest basketball watching i have ever seen.
getting bounced in the first round is a step backward in my book, especialy after 67 wins.
you also got beat by a featherweight.
or not. getting outcoached is no excuse.
Of course it does, but barring injuries, they'll win 55+ games, lock up a top-four seed and be right back in the mix next year come playoff time. It doesn't necessarily follow that they can't recover from it.
Baron Davis and Jason Richardson missed a combined 49 games due to injuries. The trade brought them Stephen Jackson and Al Harrington in exchange for Dunmurphy. How many games do the Suns win with Nash and Bell missing 50 games?
Warriors went 16-3 down the stretch with that team together and healthy. They beat your team, they beat the crap out of the Pistons in Detroit, they beat us, they beat Utah twice. They were a middleweight.
Biggest upset in NBA history based on disparity in W-L records? Yes.
Biggest upset in NBA history based on disparity in talent? Not even close.
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