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It's fun that they think you are me.
Ed, you spiritual , pull your head out of the clouds, or out of your ass, levitate back to earth, and note that this is my first post in this thread. But I enjoy your pre-occupation with me. You, Yoni, Aggie less, and Wild Cobra should start boutons_ appreciation/pre-occupation club.
It's fun that they think you are me.
Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Thats all I hear from you. Oh Im sorry you don't like when someone tramples on what you belive??? Oh I get it, you think you only have the right to do that. I see. Ha, Maybe if I respected your opinion on the matter I would delve further. Im not here to argue my faith because its not up for argument. End of story. Nothing you can say will ever prove otherwise to me or other Christians. That being said Im not a perfect Christian......Go yourself.
Oh yea, you trampled on my beliefs by saying that I "don't know " and that I'm "a little man with no depth in my mind or soul".Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah. Thats all I hear from you. Oh Im sorry you don't like when someone tramples on what you belive??? Oh I get it, you think you only have the right to do that. I see. Ha, Maybe if I respected your opinion on the matter I would delve further. Im not here to argue my faith because its not up for argument. End of story. Nothing you can say will ever prove otherwise to me or other Christians. That being said Im not a perfect Christian......Go yourself.
Yeah, I'm hurt. I don't know how I'm going to get over it.
Oh yea, and you flipped me off.
I'm really hurt now.
What are you, like 14?
You won't argue your faith because you have nothing to argue about.
You're nothing.
You have no substance.
You're meaningless.
And, I've wasted enough time on such an insignificant peon such as you are.
This thread delivers not.
Boutons, you should wait more than a minute before logging back in as PeeWee, it's a little more believable that way.
By the way, I'm still waiting for that autographed picture that I PM'ed you for at least 600 times. I hope you liked the mixed tape I mailed you a few weeks ago.
Call me!!
Honestly, I don't know who this Boutons dude/chick is.
It's all good anyway.
Ah so you resorted to calling me 14. That's what people do on fourms when they have nothing else to say. "What are you man 10 years old" LOL, makes me laugh everytime. Hey man, Im really not sorry I hurt your feelings
Peewee doesn't use nearly enough unnecessary adjectives to be boutons.
Flipping off someone because you can't make any type of argument is supposed to show a level of maturity above a 14 year old??
Yeah, you make so much sense.
Come to me with some substance, or risk sounding like the idiot you are.
No it doesn't
The intelligent discourse in this thread rivals what is in the Political Forum.
I still think that movie looks like a piece of crap.
Very astute observation.
Case closed.
Let me close this thread with my final thoughts:
People should be able to follow whatever they want in peace as long as it isn't threatning another person or alienating others. And others shouldn't blast or critcize others beliefs for a minority of the groups ideaology; or just to say it's silly to believe in a God living in the sky, so you must be stupid. After all, Einstien and Newton were religous. My genius math teacher also made a good point: Math is so complex, yet everything falls correctly in order and everything fits; their are many ways to solve different problems and it all meshes correctly together. The universe is said to be chaotic, but everything is in perfect harmony to support and balance everything and this couldn't have happend by some random chance which mathematics can't even give the probability.
The problem is that most religions do impose on others. And, there is a facade of peace, but a history of hate and exlusivity. But, oh well, whatever.
And, I could argue everything else that you pointed out, but I'm about to leave work and I just don't have the time.
That's the jist of what you've been arguing for a week, and no one is falling for your bull . Get off you atheistic high horse and realize different beliefs are what makes the world go around.
I know the purpose of this thread really has nothing to do with the movie but I thought the trailer kicked ass.
A minority do. You're assuming that everybody who follows a religon the only thing they talk about is their religon and try to impose it and that is the logical fallacy called hasty generlization.
Last edited by E20; 07-18-2007 at 05:05 PM.
Ok, I'll play your game.
Answer this:
Do Christians believe that their god is the only god? And, within Christianity, does each sect/denomination think that theirs is the only "true" Christian faith?
So, if you answer truthfully, the answer would be "yes". Having said that . . . that fact has historically made way for an ambivalent at ude towards other people of different faith. Because, why would they care about people that are damned to anyway??
One of the things I found extremely disturbing happened after 9/11. A friend of mine told me about a speech his pastor gave at his church after 9/11. The pastor told the entire church that it was time that America strike the fear of all-mighty god into the hearts of the godless heathens in the Middle East.
That's the I'm talking about.
Now, there are people that call themselves Christian that really don't give a about any of that and try to live and let live. But, these are people that can be classified as "non-practicing" christians. Those that have been so because their parents were christian because their parents were christian, and so on, and so on. You know what I'm talking about. Those that wear a cross pendant on their necklaces yet get drunk every weekend and everything in sight. Those that have a tatoo of Jesus or the Virgen Mary and yet sell drugs to little kids.
I'm not talking about these people.
Those who are the true believers, those that believe in the rapture and that god will come down from the heavens to rid the earth of all evil men . . . those are the ones I critisize. They like to say words like peace, love, forgiveness, etc. But, they want nothing more than for the rapture to come at any second, even if that means that people who are not evil at all die because they are not believers of the christian faith.
This does not only apply to Christians, by a long shot. It applies all religions that portray the same at ude (Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, etc.). The only benevolent religion that I can think of, and that has caught my interest somewhat, is that of Hinduism.
"no one is falling for your bull "
First of all, I don't give a you stupid . I'm not out to "convert" people like those of your faith do on a constant basis.
Secondly, if you read all of this thread, as well as the "GOD" thread, you'll find that there are others who share my view.
Furthermore, I'm not atheist. I'm more of an agnostic. I don't believe in your god. I don't want to. I don't like organized religion. I believe that there is something more . . . but to characterize this "thing", whatever it may be, as something that is more like man, complete with emotions, is just ridiculous.
I don't give a what you think. But, if I don't agree with it, and if you're going to make a push for it, I'm going to call you out for it.
If you don't like it, you can stop responding. But, I don't think you will. I might be wrong on that, but I don't think you'll stop because you've been conditioned to protect and defend your god like if you were a soldier of god. And, that's pretty sad.
No my friend your sad you obviously dont know anything and you need to go to church Lord knows how much that would help you
Is the problem religion, or just the humans practicing it?
Will humans really become more peaceful without religion, or will they find some other rationalization for bloodlust, hatred, and greed?
Didn't the 20th century teach us that we can do a whole heck of a lot of killing, with ideology in place of religion as the motivation?
Your do-rag is on too tight.
If you have something remotely intelligent to say, I encourage you.
But, you're just a dumb ass.
Get back to me when you come up with something intelligent and original to say.
Last edited by peewee's lovechild; 07-18-2007 at 09:37 PM.
I agree with what you said.
The humans practicing it are part of the problem.
And, there are plenty of reasons for humanity to lapse into violence in the absence of religion.
But, would you agree that religion has served as a conduit for people to express thier hate? There are plenty of examples of this throughout history. And, there continues to be examples of it today (Hindus v. Muslims, Muslims v. Christians, Muslims v. Jews, Christians v. Christian . . . Ireland, etc.).
There will always be differences between people that will lead to violence. But, religious differences, and the philosophies/doctrines they believe in, exploit these violent tendecies.
I was reading through the thread, mainly for entertainment purposes, and then came across this post.
Earlier in the thread you used the classic 'problem of evil' to refute the existence of God (or Gods as the case may be). Now, the basis of the using evil as a refutation of the existence of God is that God, by nature, must be infallible and good, good hence cannot allow evil to exist.
Which if I note, is a very human problem, good and evil are human constructs. Applying dualistic concepts to God is the application of human construct to what should be an unknowable being.
However, here you indicate that applying human concepts to a "thing" is...what were your words..."ridiculous" correct?
So, which is it? Is the problem of evil an effective contradiction to the existence of God, or is God/First Mover unknowable by humans, and as such concepts of dualism cannot be applicable?
Just curious, respond or don't at your leisure.
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