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    The Spurs just got owned by the Rockets spy aka Dennis Lindsey. His girly last name should have been a clue.

    Scola and Butler for a second round pick. I seriously can't believe this. There were many ways to save money and open up a roster spot, this wasn't one of them. And you do it with the Rockets?

    Yao and Scola is going to be a deadly front court. Butler backing up Yao?

    Holy crap wtf the Rockets just owned the Spurs ugly style.
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    The problem is that Butler's trade value was higher than a second round pick.
    But trading him for a pick or a player woudn't create as much room if, for example, you intended to use your MLE (or some part of it) in the near future. Getting back the functional equivalent of a trade exception (assuming they can get Spanoulis settled) might be sufficient to convince the Spurs to use the MLE.

    Scola's trade value should have been a lot higher than a second round pick.
    Should have been, but at least the reports that I've read have suggested that the Spurs hadn't been able to do anything better than an offer of a 2nd round pick. Perhaps the market is aware that with Scola's upside you get the headaches of his contractual issues with Tau and the possiblity that he'll just remain in Europe for the foreseeable future.

    Yet the Spurs packaged them together for a second round pick.
    Again, if they get to dump Spanoulis as you say they will, then they've rid themselves of some salary and opened a roster spot with an MLE still available.

    And the Spurs are still stuck with Beno, who is the worst contract on the team.
    Perhaps there's something else afoot -- I'm trying to remain positive and see this as a potentially strategic move. I might be wrong in that choice, but I can't believe that this management group would make what appears to be a boneheaded decision without some resaonable contingency to follow.

    I see nothing good about this trade. The Spurs basically salary dumped a guy on a one year contract for less than half the MLE.

    Worst trade in franchise history.
    I'm going to withhold judgment, but I understand what you're saying. If this deal allows the Spurs to make an offer to a free agent who can potentially make a difference -- a young, athletic wing, for instance -- I can see the trade as proving to be beneficial.

    It would certainly seem from afar that they could have gotten more.
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    Not that it matters but dont you think Ferry would have taken Butler/Scola + Beno for the exception and a bit of garbage. I do. Why this idea, surely they arent this DUMB. Do they not see what we see i mean...i just dont get it.
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    The Spurs just got owned by the Rockets spy aka Dennis Lindsey. His girly last name should have been a clue.

    Scola and Butler for a second round pick. I seriously can't believe this. There were many ways to save money and open up a roster spot, this wasn't one of them. And you do it with the Rockets?

    Yao and Scola is going to be a deadly front court. Butler backing up Yao?

    Holy crap wtf the Rockets just owned the Spurs ugly style.
    Yep, we just gave a team with a bunch of scrubs a solid three in Yao, TMac, and Scola. This is a Pop damn joke.
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    Just got in.

    This is a devastating trade. Absolutely putrid.
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    Every riveting paragraph is pregnant with a solitary, strong message: "I'm never going back to the USA".
    Yep. There is zero chance he comes back to the NBA. He wants out of his contract to sign with Pantaoisdfadfasikos.

    This is a travesty.
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    It's time to go out and hit the gym and get the frustrations out.
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    Well guess Scola's rights weren't worth much after all.
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    They won't. This is mission accomplished. Holt is under the lux tax threshold and banking.
    and he probably wonders why the Spurs don't repeat.

    Exactly because of moves like this. You can't rest on your laurels in the NBA...everyone makes moves to get you and as the champ you have to make moves to adjust. They have to be smart moves though...not dumbass ones like this.


    timvp is right....worst trade ever.
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    The wonderful thing about this? The Spurs greatly enrich a division rival.
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    Perhaps there's something else afoot -- I'm trying to remain positive and see this as a potentially strategic move. I might be wrong in that choice, but I can't believe that this management group would make what appears to be a boneheaded decision without some resaonable contingency to follow.
    I have a bad feeling that contingency plan is we get to see Ian and Williams playing for the Toros this year

    Still, you don't do this deal within your ing division of all places like this. Unreal...
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    this is the worst trade in Spurs history during my lifetime.

    1. Don't trade BOTH Butler and Scola for a 2nd rounder

    2. Don't trade within the conference

    3. Don't trade to freaking Houston who is desperate for a PF. If Butler doesn't work out, Scola sure as will.

    DISGRACE.
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    RC Buford, greatest professional sports personnel manager in history....
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    Well guess Scola's rights weren't worth much after all.
    Are you crazy? I just saved 4 million dollars in luxury tax penalties!

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    I could have lived with Butler for the rotting contract of Spanoulis and a second round pick. Wouldn't have liked it, but I could live with it.

    Throwing in Scola makes it a disgrace.
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    I think I'm going to follow Presti to Seattle. this .
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    It's time to go out and hit the gym and get the frustrations out.
    Do a couple reps for timvp. Thanks.
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    Is there no chance that Splitter comes over this season?
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    I can't eat my Chipotle burrito now. I feel like throwing up.
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    Two young, up and coming prospects = a second round pick

    Money saved by cheap-ass owner = 4 million dollars

    Making a division rival better while screwing yourself = priceless.

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    If they were going after Amir Johnson doesn't that mean they were willing to spend the money, it wasn't just a salary cap move?

    Anyone, anyone, Bueller?
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    this is the worst trade in Spurs history during my lifetime.

    1. Don't trade BOTH Butler and Scola for a 2nd rounder

    2. Don't trade within the conference

    3. Don't trade to freaking Houston who is desperate for a PF. If Butler doesn't work out, Scola sure as will.

    DISGRACE.
    This is what happens when a city panics and thinks they have to trade a 22-year-old center who isn't playing David Robinson level defense. You show desperation and you get HOSED like the Spurs did.

    The Spurs were desperate to trade Butler for some unknown reason and got OWNED.
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    Three guys with unproven NBA talent were traded for each other. This trade is a big nothing.

    The positives and negatives of Scola and Butler are strikingly similar.

    Plus Side:

    Size
    Shooting touch
    Offense

    Minus Side:

    Quickness
    Defensive potential
    At ude?

    Both of the big guys go against the template the Spurs have set up for Duncan's side men.

    None of these three will likely ever contribute significantly to an NBA team. (If any ever does, my money is on the Greek guy.)

    Once the above is common knowledge, on down the road, the big reaction will be long since forgotten. We just got nothin else to discuss.
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    If they were going after Amir Johnson doesn't that mean they were willing to spend the money, it wasn't just a salary cap move?

    Anyone, anyone, Bueller?
    The Spurs always are "about" to sign the last player who just got signed. I file this away with how the Spurs "almost" got Przybilla and Zo last year.

    It's just an excuse to then go sign a scrub to a one year contract and say oh well we tried.

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    he himself was talking about coming over .. Splitter that is. I dont see it tho
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