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    It is TD team.

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    It is TD's team for sure there's no question about it.
    But without Tony and Manu I don't see Tim winning more than 2 championships(1999 and 2003).
    And today it is more evident.
    If we want a back to back, we need Tony getting better (like Big z said maybe the offensive leader), and Manu staying healthy.

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    TP ... TS is old

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    What a stupid question.

    TD!!!!

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    Who is TS?

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    The day the Spurs actually start going to Tony Parker down the stretch instead of Duncan OR Ginobili is the day you can speculate whether the Spurs are his team.

    Right now he's still way too turnover prone.

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    less than nash

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    I concur that this team will always be known as "Tims" team as long as he is a Spur.

    But geez. How about giving Tony credit where credit is due. What was every team in the playoffs priority. IIRC it was to "Stop Tony Parker from penetrating the lane".

    Some say Tony is Duncans Pippen. But then ask yourself if Tim could be as effective without a Tony Parker on the team. They can't just double up on Tim all the time and hope everyone else is missing jumpers. Tony takes a lot of pressure off of Tim, because they always have to be aware of his speed and quickness into the lane.

    And I also agree that if Tony starts hitting 3 pointers at a high percentage this next year, he very well could be league MVP. He has alread shown some Nashesque moves in his passing. He has shown he is not afraid to go among the trees to score. He is usually on with his 12 - 15 foot jumper. AND he plays pretty damn good defense. Right now, Tony may not be as important to the success of this team as Tim, but he is running a damn close second.

    BTW I also thought it was pretty ty of one fan on this board to "hope that Tony had a terrible game 4 against the Cavs" just so Tim could get Finals MVP.

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    What does everyone have against Tony Parker? The kid can play, man. Everyone knows this is Tim Duncan's team. Tony Parker would be the first to tell you that, but no one on the Spurs cares about any of that, its all about the team and playing for each other, thats why they win. The other teams in the league do not win as consistently as the Spurs because the players are more apt to have a "me first" at ude, and when you are playing for Pop, that don't fly. Don't you get it? It takes 5. Tony deserved the Finals MVP without a doubt, he was the most dominant and consistent player in that series. That doesn't take anything away from Tim or anyone else. They are all truly happy for him.

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    I concur that this team will always be known as "Tims" team as long as he is a Spur.

    But geez. How about giving Tony credit where credit is due. What was every team in the playoffs priority. IIRC it was to "Stop Tony Parker from penetrating the lane".

    Some say Tony is Duncans Pippen. But then ask yourself if Tim could be as effective without a Tony Parker on the team. They can't just double up on Tim all the time and hope everyone else is missing jumpers. Tony takes a lot of pressure off of Tim, because they always have to be aware of his speed and quickness into the lane.

    And I also agree that if Tony starts hitting 3 pointers at a high percentage this next year, he very well could be league MVP. He has alread shown some Nashesque moves in his passing. He has shown he is not afraid to go among the trees to score. He is usually on with his 12 - 15 foot jumper. AND he plays pretty damn good defense. Right now, Tony may not be as important to the success of this team as Tim, but he is running a damn close second.

    BTW I also thought it was pretty ty of one fan on this board to "hope that Tony had a terrible game 4 against the Cavs" just so Tim could get Finals MVP.

    That's what I am saying.
    TD is The Man but without VERY GOOD PLAYERS LIKE TONY AND MANU TODAY IT IS DIFFICULT TO WIN.
    And yeah, Tony is getting better and better and actually he can be a league MVP contender.

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    It's a 5 man game. A TEAM game. No one man wins it alone.

    It's Duncan's team, there is no debating that. He is the heart and soul.

    But it takes 5 to win, and Duncan is nothing if not a team player. He will do anything it takes to help his team win. He's never cared about his individual stats. Why should we?
    (Having said that I also wanted him to get the MVP but we won so it's all good.)

    He was thrilled that Parker got the MVP. If you watch the end of game 4 when he hugs Parker you can hear him say "You carried us man."

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    stop kidding yourself. its Pop's team.

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    eather one,who cares anyways.As long as itīs Manuīs team in all 4 rd quarters and we keep on winning .

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    This stuff about Tony Parker winning NBA regular-season MVP is just stupid. Don't get me wrong, I love having Tony Parker on the Spurs. He is a terrific player. He is an All-Star. He has become capable of carrying the team for stretches. He has replaced James Silas as the best PG in the history of the franchise, and makes the talk of retiring Avery Johnson's number just the quaint chatter of slack-jawed yokels. But he is NOT an MVP-caliber player.

    I don't want to hear any stupid arguments like "Well, he won Finals MVP so it could happen." Chauncey Billups, Joe Dumars, James Worthy, Cedric Maxwell, and Jo Jo White also have won Finals MVP awards, and great players though they were, none of them were the kind of players who were ever going to win regular-season MVP.

    I don't know what is wrong with you people. Maybe the boredom and the heat of the summer make you say things like that.

    Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward in the history of the game of basketball. Tony Parker is around the 5th-best point guard in the current NBA. Stop claiming that they are anywhere close to equal.

    Is it any wonder that the American public ignores Tim Duncan and his achievements, when all it takes is a celebrity wedding and some ESPN love for Parker, for even Spurs fans to lose all perspective?

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    It will always be Duncan's team as long as he is around. Parker and the other spurs players know that.

    I usually dont ever say this, but THIS THREAD IS WORTHLESS....It will always be Tim's team.

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    This stuff about Tony Parker winning NBA regular-season MVP is just stupid. Don't get me wrong, I love having Tony Parker on the Spurs. He is a terrific player. He is an All-Star. He has become capable of carrying the team for stretches. He has replaced James Silas as the best PG in the history of the franchise, and makes the talk of retiring Avery Johnson's number just the quaint chatter of slack-jawed yokels. But he is NOT an MVP-caliber player.

    I don't want to hear any stupid arguments like "Well, he won Finals MVP so it could happen." Chauncey Billups, Joe Dumars, James Worthy, Cedric Maxwell, and Jo Jo White also have won Finals MVP awards, and great players though they were, none of them were the kind of players who were ever going to win regular-season MVP.

    I don't know what is wrong with you people. Maybe the boredom and the heat of the summer make you say things like that.

    Tim Duncan is the greatest power forward in the history of the game of basketball. Tony Parker is around the 5th-best point guard in the current NBA. Stop claiming that they are anywhere close to equal.

    Is it any wonder that the American public ignores Tim Duncan and his achievements, when all it takes is a celebrity wedding and some ESPN love for Parker, for even Spurs fans to lose all perspective?
    I agree with you except Tony is just 25, is still on the learning curve and is playing for the best team. If next season:
    - He improves one more time
    - Tim is preserved for the post season so Parker is the Spurs leader in the regular season.
    - The Spurs have a top 3 record

    I would not be shocked to see Parker named MVP. It would not mean he is the best player in the league (was Dirk the best player in the league???).

    Moreover the Dirk Flop could make the voters chose a proven winner (a Spurs
    )... why not the last finals MVP?


    EDIT: I still think it is TD team

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    Its Tims. 1st team All-NBA, 1st Team All NBA Defense. Parker will have his time to lead in the future. Its been great watching his career and see him improve every season

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    Tony's album cover



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    he needs to kill his graphic designer

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    It's Duncan's team until he retires.

    And probably even beyond that

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    It's Peter Holt's team.

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    It's Duncan's team until he retires.

    And probably even beyond that
    did people not say that about david robinson's when he was playing
    not saying it is tp team
    but

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    Parker is a ball hog. Another reason why Duncan's numbers were down. You can't score without the ball.,

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    Parker is a ball hog. Another reason why Duncan's numbers were down. You can't score without the ball.,
    LMFAO. Tony is a ballhog?

    Stevie Franchise is a ballhog.

    Allen Iverson is a ballhog.

    Tony is always looking for the open man. But if it's not there, he certainly has the ability to drive and score. How in the can you call him a ballhog?

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    I thought it was Peter Holt's team.

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