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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ILXsR691EJY

    V-Span steals the ball and has a break away layup .... but then everyone on the court including the ref catches up to him.

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    he does not like to back done

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    R.C. has balls of steel when he negotiates, and as far as I'm concerned, good for him.

    Like virtually every other team in the league, the Spurs try to stay under the cap, so being a tough negotiator means we (a) get better players for the limited money we have, and (b) have contracts that are easier to move if someone doesn't work out.

    Is anyone dumb enough to go to Memphis for an extra million a year really Spurs material?
    That's not the concern. If it's 2 years, $5 mil from the Spurs versus, say, 3 years, $12 mil from the Grizz could the man really be faulted for choosing to play the game there?

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    Sure, Jack wanted a big payday and a guaranteed spot. Next Jack was playing for the LLE in Atlanta. How exactly does this undermine my point?

    Meth kills. Your brain cells.

    I agree the Spurs won't go for it...but you were in the middle of saying he was a pussy when you asked if he sounded like a Spur...I just brought up that one of the board favortes did that...so be careful about throwing around the PT pussy label.


    And like I said...Bowen didn't come here to ride the bench.

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=ILXsR691EJY

    V-Span steals the ball and has a break away layup .... but then everyone on the court including the ref catches up to him.

    Big deal...you act like Parker and Manu have never been caught from behind. It happens...and for the 10th time...I didn't say his overall speed was that great...although he's faster than you are willing to admit.


    I just don't agree with your method of judging quick feet...

    Bowen has the quickest feet on this team...that doesn't mean he's the fastest player.

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    I agree the Spurs won't go for it...but you were in the middle of saying he was a pussy when you asked if he sounded like a Spur...I just brought up that one of the board favortes did that...so be careful about throwing around the PT pussy label.


    And like I said...Bowen didn't come here to ride the bench.
    I said his demands were not Spur-like. When Jack made those the next week he was headed to Atlanta.

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    The kid is supposed to be a good defensive player too...at least by European standards...and from what I've seen watching him, his defense is because of his feet.

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    That's not the concern. If it's 2 years, $5 mil from the Spurs versus, say, 3 years, $12 mil from the Grizz could the man really be faulted for choosing to play the game there?
    Since the rumored numbers keep dropping, my su ion is that is was his agent floating them.

    $4 million a year is an awful lot of money for a guy with one real year of NBA experience and limited upside due to his age. Wallace might be dumb enough to make that offer, but I wouldn't step in the middle of that one-man bidding war any more than I would try to compete with Orlando for Rashard Lewis.

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    I said his demands were not Spur-like. When Jack made those the next week he was headed to Atlanta.
    Yeah well...I doubt the Spurs will go for it too. Although again...Bowen wasn't guranteed pt, but he was guranteed a chance to start. That's why he came here at such a bargain rate.

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    Do you realize who is guarding him in that video? Pablo Prigioni who despite being a great passer is an amazingly slow and poor defender. Travis Hansen who is a 6-foot-6 small forward. And I think I saw Igor Rakocevic on him and that guy makes Steve Nash look like Bruce Bowen.

    I really hope V-Span comes to the Spurs now just so you can see how horrible that take of yours is.

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    Who are we discussing, the player the Spurs are pursuing in free agency or the one they want to walk away?

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    This guy Spanoulis has incredible hops. I've seen video of him jumping clear over the backboard but not before flicking the ball expertly behind his back into the hoop. In fact, you have to wonder if it's a liability to have jumping ability quite at that level. You should look it up on youtube.

    /whottt

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    you act like Parker and Manu have never been caught from behind.
    With Beno on the team, I'm pretty sure all the guys have been 'caught from behind.'

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    I'd rather the Spurs sign Udoka than find out firsthand that the Greek is made for Greek basketball.

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    Udoka - fits the profile of what the Spurs like in a player. Well grounded, no stupidity, will defend, fits a role, shoots well from outside, and won't break the bank. If they were ever going to find a 'Bowen replacement', it's him.

    Spanoulis - too many questions, even if he were to join the team. When will he pout? When will he demand to leave again? Also, he reminds me of a lot of 'dominant', 'great' international guards whose games did not translate well to the NBA. Sarunas Jasikevicius was supposed to be the , a guard who played great against Team USA. We've seen how that's worked out in the NBA. The Spurs would be better served not wasting any more time than necessary to get him to walk away from his contract for nothing.

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    you start low then work up no
    That works great if you're the only bidder, not so much if you've got Memphis running around with the MLE to offer.

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    Udoka - fits the profile of what the Spurs like in a player. Well grounded, no stupidity, will defend, fits a role, shoots well from outside, and won't break the bank. If they were ever going to find a 'Bowen replacement', it's him.

    Spanoulis - too many questions, even if he were to join the team. When will he pout? When will he demand to leave again? Also, he reminds me of a lot of 'dominant', 'great' international guards whose games did not translate well to the NBA. Sarunas Jasikevicius was supposed to be the , a guard who played great against Team USA. We've seen how that's worked out in the NBA. The Spurs would be better served not wasting any more time than necessary to get him to walk away from his contract for nothing.
    Here's a take: One of those players did pretty well in the NBA, the other blew chunks.

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    Udoka - fits the profile of what the Spurs like in a player. Well grounded, no stupidity, will defend, fits a role, shoots well from outside, and won't break the bank. If they were ever going to find a 'Bowen replacement', it's him.

    Spanoulis - too many questions, even if he were to join the team. When will he pout? When will he demand to leave again? Also, he reminds me of a lot of 'dominant', 'great' international guards whose games did not translate well to the NBA. Sarunas Jasikevicius was supposed to be the , a guard who played great against Team USA. We've seen how that's worked out in the NBA. The Spurs would be better served not wasting any more time than necessary to get him to walk away from his contract for nothing.
    Well, nor Jasikevicious nor Spanoulis have played their legitimate role in nba...they were point guards, all their like, and they have been played, by their nba coaches, like shooting guards.
    Sometimes I think that coaches don't realize how much they can destroy a player confidence...I agree that if you're a good player you can play well in every position, but...anyone, given the cir stances, can show well or bad.

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    Well, nor Jasikevicious nor Spanoulis have played their legitimate role in nba...they were point guards, all their like, and they have been played, by their nba coaches, like shooting guards.
    Sometimes I think that coaches don't realize how much they can destroy a player confidence...I agree that if you're a good player you can play well in every position, but...anyone, given the cir stances, can show well or bad.

    You conveniently gloss over the fact that they can't play point guard position in NBA. They have hard time bring the ball over the half-court, make bad passes, can't guard anyone, and shoots badly.
    They are the Benos.

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    i have a feeling Barry is gonna shine this season and be traded by deadline.

    I wish there was room for White, he will be a stud one day

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    I'm not sure Barry is all that UNWANTED, ok 5.5 mil would be nice off the books, but he does seem to be an important chemistry/locker room type guy. Given Bonner is worth 3 and only plays junk time, Barry at 5.5 is not such a bad deal for this year at least.

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    Tiago Splitter, the Spurs' recent first-round draft pick, will be in town this week to meet with team officials. Splitter will return to Spain to play for Tau Ceramica for one more season, after which the Spurs hope to sign him.
    This seems rather interesting. He is coming to SA to meet with the team and see the city... I am sure Tau will offer him a huge contract- maybe even this summer, like they did Scola. I still believe that part of the Spurs impetus for how they played the whole "we want to help Scola realize his dream of playing in the NBA" was about Splitter.

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    I'm not sure Barry is all that UNWANTED, ok 5.5 mil would be nice off the books, but he does seem to be an important chemistry/locker room type guy. Given Bonner is worth 3 and only plays junk time, Barry at 5.5 is not such a bad deal for this year at least.
    5.5 M for Barry is way too much at his age.Maibe before He turned 30 but not right now.I wouldn´t give him more tham what we pay J.Vaughn,Honestly.

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    MB's avatar change deserves props.

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    I think this roster is a wee too old. Picking up Udoka might be a big help, but usually the first year on the Spurs is rough. Udoka or White this year is a gamble, but I would expect Udoka to fit in well after that.

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