Thomas goes to the Seattle SuperSonics, along with the Suns' own 2008 and 2010 first-round draft picks in exchange for a future conditional 2nd round pick and a trade exception, worth about $8 million.
Can someone explain that last part about condtional 2nd round pick and trade exception worth 8 mill?????
This looks at first glance like the suns give up Tomas,
two first rounds picks for little more then a second rounder and what ever this trade exception means.
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Seriously, this challenges the Scola/Butler trade for the All-Time "strengthening your opponent because you're cheap" award.
Thomas wasn't a Duncan-stopper, but he did a credible enough job that they didn't have to completely wave the white flag on defense.
Suns need a PF/C who can play some defense like Brian Skinner or PJ Brown. But it would be a downgrade compared to Kurt Thomas.
How much room do they have under the luxury tax? Even with this trade, it doesn't look like much.
They are still over the luxury tax, I believe, by a shade under $2 mil.
Thomas was the one piece the Suns had that actually seemed to give them sort of edge against the Spurs. Anybody who doesn't realize that hasn't been paying much attention the past couple of years.
D'Antoni would actually slow down his entire game plan in order to fit this guy on the floor against the Spurs. I'm sure there was some sort of reasoning behind this.
Regardless, now they've just added another turnstile in Grant Hill, and I'm still wondering how they are going to effectively fit in good minutes for Nash, Barbosa, Bell, Marion, AND Hill.
I foresee another fabulous regular season for Phoenix, and another early playoff exit.
The early entry for whottt's Best Whiner About the Thomas Trade thread.
The Suns need Skinner or Brown. NEED...
Like Timvp said, Amare on Duncan... Sheesh!
Marion will play Parker, Bell on Manu...
So will Nash or Hill guard the Spurs' center?
I have them $800K over the tax with 11 players under contract.
Add DJ Strawberry and a 13th player paid the min, to reach the 13 players required, and they will be $2M over the tax.
I'm guessing they won't add anymore salary then.
Let's hope PJ Brown and Brian Skinner will get more than the minimum.
Sean Marks in the rotation?
Dont bother arguing with him. He thinks the Mavs are mentally tough enough to win it all due to beating the Spurs in 2006.
If this is really the way that salary dumps are going to be handled in the future, then somebody should start queuing up for Orlando's 2009 and 2010 picks.
Don't be so happy, I can imagine a timvp nightmare scenario :I'm guessing they won't add anymore salary then.
Let's hope PJ Brown and Brian Skinner will get more than the minimum.
Sean Marks in the rotation?
Knicks buy out Malik (they need roster spots and are rebuilding) and he sign for the min with Phoenix.
Malik is still a Spur. CIA Malik.Don't be so happy, I can imagine a timvp nightmare scenario :
Knicks buy out Malik (they need roster spots and are rebuilding) and he sign for the min with Phoenix.
OMG ! they traded the " Duncan stopper "
Wrong! Last year there were 5 teams. This next year there will be a dozen or more. Mark it down. The Knicks won't be paying as much but that will be more than made up other teams. Plus, there will be fewer teams to share the money which equals bigger per-team payoff.This trade will too encourage Spurs to be above the luxury tax.
The luxury tax amount collected next year will be quite low : the penalty for being 1$ above the luxury tax threshold will be low too.
We can't say how much luxury tax will be collected before the deadline but I think it will be less than last year.
Last year teams have paid $55M in luxury tax. This year it should be around $45M.
Luxury tax redistribution doesn't work like that.
Teams under the tax get 1/30th more of the luxury tax money collected than teams over the tax.
That's still a sizeable sum. My point was that it wasn't "very low" like the prior poster said.We can't say how much luxury tax will be collected before the deadline but I think it will be less than last year.
Last year teams have paid $55M in luxury tax. This year it should be around $45M.
Good point, but the excess funds still will probably go into the escrow funds.Luxury tax redistribution doesn't work like that.
Teams under the tax get 1/30th more of the luxury tax money collected than teams over the tax.
What a stupid trade for the Suns. Seriously. KT was great against the Duncan.
Not Rasheed Wallace great, but at least he made him work for his points.
Not that I'm questioning whether you know what you're talking about, but how do you know that? Just based on how much teams have signed players for so far, or do you have projections for what currently unsigned FAs will get as well?
other teams are making moves and the spurs are signing bonner.. ing great.
Typical Sequ. The lottery sonics add a player and he gets bent out of shape.
Shut it boy.
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