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This will just make the Spurs play even better next year to prove all the stupid doubter wrong, AGAIN. Look for 70+ wins from the Spurs to make these morons shut up.
Dude, read the post above yours.
This will just make the Spurs play even better next year to prove all the stupid doubter wrong, AGAIN. Look for 70+ wins from the Spurs to make these morons shut up.
You want some moldy old cheese to go with that bitter whine of yours?
because the depleted wizards were heavy favorites against the cavs.
Wait till the NFL fools get caught, then you will see some real crazy .
Will never happen. Book it.
I haven't re-watched all of Game 3, but I did watch the early stages of the game this morning. Your statement about who called the first two fouls on Amare is incorrect. Donaghy did, in fact, call both of those fouls. But your descriptions of the fouls is correct and there was no doubt with the broadcasters that each was a legitimate call.
I'll also note that on one of the Suns' first 5 possessions, Nash took Parker down to the block and appeared to shove off. Donaghy was the official closest to that play -- one that could have easily been called an offensive foul on Nash -- and didn't make a call.
Even that play wasn't a Donaghy call. Ed Rush made that call -- so, Ed Rush is the official who refused to give Bowen a technical or a flagrant on that play.
We need to start a whiny loser forum for all these pissant fans from other teams trying to take the huge jump in logic from point shaving here and there by one referee to an outright conspiracy by the NBA to help a small market team in a small TV market win a le.
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That video is ridiculous if you're trying to prove that Donaghy was affecting the score of that game.
I'll give you that the Manu foul is su ious now, but it's not THAT unusual for the outside official to make that call, particularly where the offensive player complains the way Ginobili did at the end of that play. Also, Donaghy is the baseline official who refuses to make the call on Amare's drive at 2:50 of the 4th, but officials blow that call all the time too.
In the best case scenario for Suns whiners, that's two calls that might implicate Donaghy. The video should have ended there and saved me the next 4:10 of my life.
As for the rest:
1. Amare's 4th foul -- the offensive foul with Oberto flopping -- at 10:35 of the 4th (2:40 on the video) was called (clearly) by Eddie F. Rush. I'm not sure what that has to do with Donaghy.
2. The Duncan/Nash block-charge call at 6:15 of the 3rd quarter (about 3:15 or so in the video) is a call made by Greg Willard, not Tim Donaghy. The replay also shows that Nash is bailing out before contact, which makes the block call against him correct.
3. The call on Diaw at 6:46 of the 3rd quarter (about 3:55 on the video) is also made by Eddie F. Rush.
4. The offensive foul on Bowen at the 11:00 mark of the 3rd (about 4:25 on the video) is also made by Eddie F. Rush.
5. The technical foul on D'Antoni at 7:29 of the 4th (about 5:20 on the video) is called by Greg Willard. On the previous play, Nash thinks he got fouled; regardless of the merits of his complaint, the two officials on that side of the floor are Willard and Rush. On both the Nash play and the technical foul, Donaghy is across the floor and near midcourt.
6. The no-call at 6:09 of the 4th on Nash (about 6:11 on the video) is made by Eddie F. Rush.
If the point of the video is to complain that NBA officiating can be inconsistent, it does show that. If the point of the video is to suggest that Donaghy affected the outcome of that game by the fact that he officiated the game, it's a long way from doing that.
The rigged game was game four where the bogus fouls on Duncan allowed the Suns a chance to get back in the game.
I don't think it was fixed for the spurs to win, but nobody really knows what the went on. Now they're saying they are expecting more arrests to be made and it might be a bigger deal than we first thought. Say whatever you want but something definately wasn't right about last years game 5 of the finals, when Wade shoved Dirk and Dirk was called for the foul and Wade won the game fromt he line. I have never seen any like that in all my years of watching sports.
i agree, if more refs get implicated, this becomes a much bigger deal. but as it stands, it's one guy and, in particular, one game between the suns and spurs. none of us are saying it's not a bad thing, but i am surprised anyone would say an entire series or playoffs is called into question based on what's been reported so far.
You must have missed the game earlier in the playoffs where Dirk ran over Duncan (after TD was set for a good 2 seconds) and they called it on Tim (and that was an end of game situation too).
On KENS TV Sports news they reported that not only was Donaghy cooperating with the Feds and implicating more Refs, but also players as well.
And ESPN said basically the same thing.
Wait, according to that bug-eyed expression on his face every time the whistle blows, I thought Duncan never committed a foul in his entire NBA career.
You mean the famous Dirk steps on Tim's foot and Tim is called for the block call?
I maintain my position that officials don't affect the outcomes of games because there are too many things that players can do to determine the outcome. But, if you want to get into odd calls, how about 2 calls in Game 4 of the Spurs/Mavs 2006 playoff series: (1) Bavetta's phantom technical on Finley in the 2nd quarter; and (2) Jim Clark's ruling against Duncan on a block/charge situation in the 4th quarter with the Spurs up by 5 -- Clark called the block claiming that Duncan's foot was in the circle, but replays showed that Duncan was both set and outside of the circle. Dirk makes 3 free throws, including a delay of game technical, and what could have been Spurs +5 and the ball became Spurs +2. The game was decided in overtime. Each of those calls was wrong, but the Spurs had plenty of opportunities to overcome the officiating; they simply failed.
I don't know why other fans throw out TD's famous "I didn't do it" look as if it insults us. We don't give a what his facial expressions are.
Tip of the iceberg. Serves Stern right for his moronic judgment.
For all you Stern lovers, he won't survive through the end of the year.
maybe the spurs actually overcame this ref
The self destruction of the NBA is at hand and all you concern yourself with is your lousy little Spurs?
This whole thing is disgusting. Game 3 is tainted, pure and simple. But NBA refs in general are disgusting. I can only hope that the NBA cleans it up.
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