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    They acquired Melvin Ely in part to shave off luxury tax expenses. Also because he was big-man insurance, perhaps, in case they faced Shaq or needed him in any way. Of course, he blew. The decision on James White came earlier in the year than the trade deadline; cutting him would have saved no money, and in any case, wouldn't have pushed them below the line.
    Spurs were over the luxury tax when they have signed James White!. James White! was worth for Spurs paying $1.2M instead of $400K.
    Spurs could have easily gone under the tax at the deadline by asking Charlotte to waive Ely before the trade (and give them the cash for it) or by trading James White! + cash + 2nd round pick to a team with a roster spot (Philly has done the same kind at the deadline by trading Henderson to Utah). Spurs would have saved more than $2M by doing one of these trades.

    When you look at what Spurs have done last year, you can't say : "One thing that's clear: the Spurs really ing hate paying the luxury tax.". It was more "One thing that's clear: paying few luxury tax isn't a ing big problem for Spurs.".

    their ruling interest, despite what they say, is still to get under the tax threshold.
    Spurs not wanting to go over the luxury tax is just an assumption and when you look at recent facts, it's not more likely that Spurs agreeing to be slightly over the luxury tax.

    If you consider Spurs not wanting to go over the tax threshold as a sure thing, either you are stupid or a Spurs ownership hater.

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    I think the holdup is that they want him to go away for nothing.
    So you think that Spanoulis, whose agent is crying "Free V-Span" in all Greek medias and who will earned more money in Europe than in nba, disagrees to go away for nothing ?

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    So you think that Spanoulis, whose agent is crying "Free V-Span" in all Greek medias and who will earned more money in Europe than in nba, disagrees to go away for nothing ?
    Deflecting the blame, that's all.

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    So you think that Spanoulis, whose agent is crying "Free V-Span" in all Greek medias and who will earned more money in Europe than in nba, disagrees to go away for nothing ?
    I think the agent is now aware that Houston included cash in the trade "in case" they needed to do a buyout. Agents often say one thing while working towards something else. That's why they're agents.

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    Some updates :
    http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=702794

    Spanoulis is a good player, I hope Spurs will keep him if he agrees to play in SA.

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    Thanks Bruno! Is it true that he wants to come over if the Spurs want him (last post at realgm)? Everything I heard to this point was that he wants to stay in Greece. I wonder if one talk with TP really convinced him to come. I would like to see him with the Spurs and ship Beno somewhere else...

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    At this point I wouldn't mind seeing if he can resurrect his NBA career. That would give the Spurs the prospect of getting something out of the Scola trade. But if he did join the team along with Udoka then someone else (ie Barry) has to go.

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    Holt: Who the is letting Parker talk with the Greek?!!?

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    keep this guy cut beno

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    Nice find, Bruno. I wouldn't mind it at all if the Spurs somehow manage to trade away Beno and then use that money to keep V-Span. V-Span is a much better player than Beno and still has some quality upside.

    Either way the Spurs win in the V-Span situation. If he comes, he's good enough to be a good prospect. If he doesn't come, the Spurs can use his roster spot and money saved elsewhere.

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    Interesting ... c'mon Cleveland, pull the trigger on Beno, you know you need him ... you KNOW you want him ... after all he's more talented than Gino, just ask him ...

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    Some updates :
    http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=702794

    Spanoulis is a good player, I hope Spurs will keep him if he agrees to play in SA.
    A Greek poster has translated today's article about Spanoulis, thanks to him :

    Vasilis Spanoulis had the chance on Saturday not only to play once again against Tony Parker but to talk to him as well. The two of them also met on Sunday during the break between the two games of the tournament (France vs Slovenia and Greece vs Serbia).
    "I know we got you" Parker said. The two of them (born in '82) know each other since 2000 when Greece played against France twice.
    The newly wed star of the Spurs tried to convince his new teammate by telling him "Reconsider. I think it would be better for you if you played with the Spurs". Parker has won 3 les with the Spurs.
    Spanoulis has expressed an interest in returning to Greece, even though he has been offered the chance to play with the best team in the world (as the americans call the NBA champions).
    But since he has not been released yet, he appears to be reconsidering his initial decision, something that wouldn't have happened if he was traded to a team other than the Spurs.
    Spanoulis will be both closer to and further from being released from the Spurs on Tuesday. It all depends on what San Antonio will do.
    Ime Udoka has signed a 2-year contract for 2 millions per year and has become the 14th player. This is where Spanoulis come sinto play. If the Spurs want to sign 2 more players, they will have to buy out Spanoulis.
    If Spanoulis is released in favor of a more experienced guard, he will receive half of the 1,944,000 dollars on his contract. The Spurs have an option for a third year worth 2,088,000. Even if the Spurs keep Spanoulis, they have the option to release him next summer.
    The final countdown will begin on Tuesday, that is if RC Buford wants to release Spanoulis. Spurs have both the watermelon and the knife right now.
    Vasilis can only wait. At least things are moving on.

    note: The article is written by a reporter of the team that wants to sign him, so they are more than likely expressing their own hopes of signing him. I don't think they have any sources that would indicate the Spurs are planning to release Billy.

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    Is this Vasoline guy even athletic or tough enough to be in the nba? Can he play any kind of D? Can he even help in the scoring department?

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    I wonder few things :
    When Parker say to Spanoulis "reconsider", is it because Spurs have asked him to do so ?
    Is Spanoulis really changing his mind about playing with Spurs or is it just a tactic to get a bigger buyout ?
    I'm really surprised that Spurs will have to give him half of his salary if they waive him. I don't see at all Spanoulis being waived and getting money.


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    Spurs have both the watermelon and the knife right now.


    Sounds like some colloquial idiom akin to "make or break you" that I really like.

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    http://www.superbasket.gr/?c=139&a=5898

    Spanoulis will be release before Tuesday.

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    damn, that's too bad . . . I think

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    Translation please?

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    http://www.superbasket.gr/?c=139&a=5898

    Spanoulis will be release before Tuesday.
    Sucks, if true. However, this story keeps going back and forth. Any reason why to believe this report more than others? V-Span has reportedly been "days away" from being released like 15 times so far this summer.

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    ^ We will see but it seems kinda solid because they are giving some details.

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    Translation please?
    Panathinaikos FO has asked Spurs FO when/if they will release Spanoulis. Spurs FO has said they will release him before before Tuesday.

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    What would be the min. contract THud could be offered? Just wondering, cause this may be our next player signed!!

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    Do we still have Troy Hudson's number?

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    Babelfish translation (loosely):

    The lies finish... At the latest as Tuesday (21/08) Vasilis Spanoy'lis will have realised his big wish, that is not other than to get dressed itself once again in greens! The Greek guard had taken a long time ago the decision to abandon... American dream in order to it returns under the roof of Panathinaikos. And while the process e'mojaze initially the simple, afterwards his concession by their Ro'kets in the champions Spurs, situation perjple'hcike enough and the all history "pulled" much more from as long as waited for the himself, the persons of his narrow environment, but also managing the champions Europe. However, finally good, all good... The official Panathinaikos has come in communication with members of administration of his team As Anto'njo and he has received all the essential assurances, that at the latest as Tuesday (21/08) the B-break will be free from their Spurs. What means this? That automatically it will wear once again the green vest, and as him they have put in the eye and other European teams, with the first and better Taoy'. And this will happen, not only because the Kill-Bill knows what wants, but already has signed with the Panathinaikos.

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