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Too bad that prescription won't be filled. We have about as good a chance as seeing a Raptors-Warriors finals.
Last I checked, Dirk has done something Stevie hasn't: gotten his team past San Antonio and into the Finals. We're not selling off our draft picks and trading away our best interior defenders to avoid the lux tax. Mavs are le contenders, Suns are le pretenders.How could you forget "The Mavs are chokers!!!!"
Too bad that prescription won't be filled. We have about as good a chance as seeing a Raptors-Warriors finals.
she was in a bunch of music videos and was cast as "the hottest babe in the World" by alot of guys in the 80's. She is basically the 80's Pam Anderson. But you'll be saying "who the is that?" when someone mentions Eva 15 years from now
Please.....
The Mavs are just first round fodder...no different than the Lakers, Rockets, Nuggets etc.
I translated your comments for you.
And the Suns are Tim Duncan's throw pillow.
Spurs fans love to cling to the "And 1!" argument.
If you don't like the Spurs, you must only like "And 1" basketball.
Yet "And 1" basketball doesn't draw any interest either. No one cares about "And 1" basketball just like no one cares about the Spurs! So much for THAT argument.
The Bulls were exciting and they didn't have to play like an "And 1" circus show.
Neither did the Lakers.
Neither do the Suns.
Spurs should take note.
What this forum needs if for Da Suns to throw himself in traffic. YOU are an idiot and everything you say doesnt make sense, and just like you have heard over and over, why do you even post here. No one likes you, your logic is stupid, your "smack" talk consists of Mavs Choking and spurs are in the shadow of Eva. That is weaker than Dantoni's coaching skills. Smaller than Amare's brain. Is as bad as your head trainers s ching skills. The only ones that need saving is us from your stupid rants that are making every that reads them a little dumber each time.
great defense with exciting offense. les.
80's - good defense for their era with exciting play. shaq/kobe lakers - good defense as well. les
no defense. no les.
who should take note?
Those first round fodders beat your precious suns in last years Western conf. finals. What is your excuse for that ?
duh-mare was huwt. Yeah, we're completely overmatched when he's in.
Note that the Bulls didn't win any les until defense became as important to them as offense.
Wilt Chamberlain is 5 times the player of anyone on the Suns, and the Celtics consistently owned his ass with defense, with Bill Russell winning more rings than fit on both hands. You think the Russell Celtics were boring too? Tough , because they're the best team the NBA has ever seen.
I'm glad the NBA has the Suns around, because they keep people occupied during the regular season until they go home for the year in May and watch the Finals on television.
To show how fair I am, I will acknowledge that I laughed at that one.
But the rest of this post lacked originality and, for the most part, was incoherent.
Try not to be so angry when you type.....youre writing too fast.
Eh...Im pretty sure the Suns were like the rest of the nation and DIDN'T watch the Finals on television.
Yeah, it's all about popularity. The Suns are the Lindsey Lohan of the NBA.
To show how fair I am, I will acknowledge that I laughed at that one.
But the rest of this post lacked originality and, for the most part, was incoherent.
Try not to be so angry when you type.....youre writing too fast.
Well I really do hate you so yes I was typing fast....plus your mom was sucking me off and its hard to concentrate.......she sucks like a hoover!!
You talk about originality........dude you have been spitting out the same for the last month about eva and the mavs choking.....you of all people cannot demand originality!!
That won't happen again. It can't. Thinking that the Magic/Bird revolution was due solely to style of play is a failure to ignore much more significant factors:How far we have fallen from the days of Magic and Bird.
1) The Big Three television networks were still dominant. NBC introduced America to Magic and Bird through the network's presentation of NCAA Final Four coverage. Believe you me, Indiana State and Michigan State weren't scoring 110+ points per game - it's just that a lot more people were watching NBC and learned about them
2) Seizing upon this recognition, the NBA turned to a new marketing strategy - Market The Player. It was a novel idea, and fans responded. It certainly didn't hurt that Bird and Magic ended up on the two greatest franchises in league history. And with great players surrounding the two young stars, Celtics vs. Lakers took on the importance of Bears vs. Packers or Yankees vs. Red Sox. The casual fan had many familiar elements to latch onto.
3) Just a few years later, Michael Jordan would join the league - and as we know, Jordan was the perfect player to put into this new marketing matrix. He was not only one of the best players in basketball, he was not only acutely aware of his public image, he was a spectacular player - any basketball novice could appreciate the way MJ soared above the rim. To put it simply, from 1979 to 1984, the greatest SF, SG, and perhaps the greatest PG in history joined the league. Not since the early sixties had such immense talent come into the league within just a few seasons.
4) The NBA kind of trapped itself with this marketing strategy; after all, it wasn't every single draft class which brought in an all-time great. While post-Jordan drafts brought in "lesser" players, media proliferation was taking off. The NBA kept the marketing blueprint in place but fans didn't connect to the younger stars. Fast-forward to today, with hundreds of entertainment choices at the disposal of casual fans, with the game evolving towards greater size, quickness, and defense, many casual fans left. And when all-time greats such as Tim Duncan (a more private man without an overly flashy game) came along and ended up in a small market, casual fans on the coasts didn't care. They had already seen Bird, Magic, and Jordan and no longer felt the buzz they had twenty years ago.
So when fans pine for the Good Old Days, they're not pining away for 118-111 scores - they're pining away for a time when the NBA was, for all intents and purposes, a brand new product. Those cir stances will never come back into play.
But yeah, go ahead and blame the style of play. Be a simpleton.
teams that have owners that whine and complain like little b*tches..
Sorry, thats a cop-out.
You can blame media outlets, marketing stradegies etc, but that doesn't hold up against the slightest bit of scrutiny.
The NFL is having its biggest numbers ever. Its not a "new" product.
The Suns/Lakers generated the highest rated first round match up since Jordan came out of retirement.
The NCAA tournament and championship game hasn't had any problems with drawing viewers or interest.
Every finals featuring the Spurs has seen a dramatic decline in viewership from just the previous year!
Youre going to tell me that final scores in the freaking SEVENTIES don't hurt the NBA?
btw junior - it was CBS who first showcased Magic/Bird. Not NBC.
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Why would you bring this up?
Did you really forget Amare dropped a forty point game on the Mavs this season?
I guess that must seem small after Kobe dropped 62 on the Mavs in three quarters, huh?
The Suns are 7-5 against the Mavs with Amare and Nash. I'll take my chances if we run into them in the playoffs. Kobe can play one-on-five all he wants, the Lakers have no chance at beating Dallas in a series.
I looked it up....in four games against the Mavs this season, Amare averaged 26 points 10 rebounds and (YIKES) 70% shooting from the field!
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/player...s?statsId=3607
and yet the Suns could only manage a 2-2 split. Color me awestruck!
First of all, Football is the casual fans dream. There's much less nuance in a football game than a basketball or baseball game. The less the casual fans have to think about, the easier it is to keep them around.
Second, jackass, NBC was the network showing the Final Four in 1979. This was the event which introduced Magic and Bird to the entire country.
Third, I'm not inclined to be convinced by isolated events - one series here or there. Show me (with links) season after season ratings results. The big picture will tell the story.
Fourth, college basketball's "one-and-done" playoff format is much more casual fan friendly. You add on the fierce loyalty that college allegiances create, it's not surprising that college ratings are fine.
Fifth, I already pointed out that casual fans like scoring, but there are other factors keeping them away. Are you proposing that we artificially raise scoring? Would that help, or would people recognize that a cheap, gimmicky grab for fans was taking place?
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