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as much as i liked Raptors this year i dont think they are ready to rule anything
except maybe if Baragnani keeps improving with the pace he improved last year
I still think Raptors will rule the East. Garnett isn't that good of a player to turn around the Celtics.
as much as i liked Raptors this year i dont think they are ready to rule anything
except maybe if Baragnani keeps improving with the pace he improved last year
The player who will make this trade good or not for Boston is Ryan Gomes.
There are reports with him in the trade and some without him.
If Gomes is traded, Boston will have a hard time finding a good supporting cast to Allen/Pierce/KG.
If Gomes is in the deal, I hope Spurs will try to get him from Minny. I'm not sure that Minny would be interested in keeping him because he hasn't a great upside and will get a big contract next summer. Spurs should offer their 08 first round pick for him even if it likely won't be enough to get him.
i think they could hang with both dallas and phoenix in a 7 game series.
this is the most ridiculous thing ive ever seen written on this board........
I think Boston got the short end of the stick on this one.
It may make them better, but I dont see it giving them a championship.
And the Wolves got a bunch of upside here, in Jefferson.
I wasnt under the impression that Pierce or Allen play a lick of defense. Defense wins the East. Defense wins championships. It looks like Boston will be able to score basically at will. Which might just be enough to win the East.
But until I see the team play and have a commitment to the defensive end, Im not sold. BUT, if they do play a better defensive game than say, the Heat, then this team will be a very real contender.
I read today that Garnett is at least 2 inches taller than his listed height of 6'11'.
Is this true?
(It was an AP article, I don't have time to find a link now, I'll try to later.)
With KG patrolling inside the Celtics have something to start with on defense... With their 3 stars playing they will be a tough matchup for any team. But their rotation will be so short that I would be surprise if they go to the ECF. I expect at least one of the 3 to be injured half the season (likeky Pierce or Allen). We will see.
ESPN can't stand not to be first with a story. CBS called this a done deal yesterday, and today ESPN has yet to say that the deal is done. It's like they are holding out in hope that CBS was jumping the gun or something.
Pierce is actually an underrated defender. He plays pretty good D, though not consistently. Allen plays 0 defense. But KG will be their defensive force in the paint that they haven't had in decades.
The problem is what they will be able to afford to put around those guys.
Garnet is much more similar to TD than many here would like to admit. He just hasn't had good enough players around him.
But still, this team is 1 injury away from lottery, which i think will happen. They are just putting to much on the line and it could backfire. They basicly got 3 stars and no bench. I say they will be .500 team.
kg its not similar to TD ..why..cus he its better player playing far away of the basket he its too fast and has a better shot even better a better paser ..but why they are too diferent and why TD has 4 rings ..cus he plays in the low post ...its there where he its unstoptable ..kg could be too ..but he likes to be fashion get the atention ..be spectacular player ..TD do not...when he is in the low post then manu an tp can play with more freedon ....so they are not similar players
The players that each has played with through their careers arent even close.
Bottom line, the T-Wolves front office has given Garnett a chance to win one time in his career, while Tim is surrounded by a team that has a chance every year
the difference is that tim duncan is tim duncan and kevin garnett is kevin garnett. one is a winner and the other a loser. that's all.
ps: it would be nice to see both in the finals this coming yr.
One interesting sidelight coming out of this story is the nearly-here demise of the player who spends his entire career with just one franchise. On the baseball side of things, one point that made the Gwynn/Ripken enshrinement last weekend so momentous was the fact that each of those great, great players spent his entire career in one organization.
In the NBA, like other sports, we see less and less of that. If you look at just the 2007 All-Star teams, of the 29 players who were selected to participate in that game, 18 have been traded by teams or changed teams via free agency at some point during their careers. Of the 11 who haven't changed teams, only 3 had been with their team for more than 5 seasons: Tim Duncan, Shawn Marion, and Tony Parker. (I guess you could include Kobe and Dirk on that list, but each has actually been traded -- Kobe from Charlotte after the 1996 draft and Dirk from Milwaukee after the 1998 draft)
As great as Timmy has been, I think his legacy will be enhanced, if only ever so slightly, by the fact that it appears that he will spend his entire career with only one franchise. That's a unique feat anymore, even for the greatest players in the game. For small-market San Antonio to have been blessed with two iconic players of this era and to have had each of them play his entire career in San Antonio is truly, truly remarkable. We've never had to share the greatness of Tim or Dave with anyone else.
But could you envision a scenario where you switch Duncan for Garnett on any of his teams and they don't even make the playoffs?
I can't.
Now, some of that may have to do with the fact that Garnett never had coaching that took defense seriously (hey to Flip).
But I think that in the final analysis, the NBA is still the big man's game, and The Ultimate Long Three << The Ulimate 4-5 when it comes to building a squad.
uhhh couldnt you say the same thing about phoenix if nash is hurt ?
If Garnett had played with the Spurs instead of Duncan he would probably have at least one ring. Maybe not 4, but at least one.
With the Wolves,Duncan would have made multiple playoff runs... and would have 0 rings. Duncan > Garnett IMO but not by a wide margin.
Obviously... but they could deal with Amare or Marion hurt (they proved it in 2005-2006). With one of the 3 out Boston is dead (unless a player improve as much as diaw in 2005-2006).
I guess Phoenix is the big loser this off-season
And about Nash... were would we go without Duncan? Not easy to play without your cornerstone player.
they couldnt deal with ... atleast not in the post season and not against the spurs!
We were talking about being one injury away from lottery team
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