Beno may not have been anywhere near good his second season but he was clearly better than NVE. From what I remember every Spurs board was calling Pop an idiot/stubborn/blind for continuing to play NVE. It was like Pop had George Bush blinders on and couldn't face reality.
Pop likes to have players in his doghouse. Since Malik I can't remember a time when someone wasn't in his doghouse. I'm not saying Beno hasn't clearly deserved it for a great deal of the time, but Pop gave NVE a total pass when he was even more lazy than Beno. I suppose Pop somehow thought NVE was going to pull a Robert Horry and take it up several notches. It didn't happen and Beno has been confirmed dead ever since then.
No, guys your going about this all wrong. Beno wants to be cut. Let him be the BALL BOY for the remainder of his contract, or designate him as Marcus William's personal bell hop. If he is going to blame someone else for the lack of playing time he recieved other than himself, then let's give him a good reason to do so, by sitting his ass on the bench all season. Now let's see how many offers you get come 08'
if you do not practice hard why in the should you play in the games
Hmmmmm...Europeans are discrimated against, huh? I'm very disappointed that Beno would make a comment like that .. I don't think Pop discriminates against any of the players .. He's probably an "A," to all equally ---except maybe Tim ...
Pop is a grump but a consistent one, eh?
If I remember correctly, Beno tweaked his ankle in the first quarter but played until part of the way through the third quarter when HE then claimed that he could not play on it anymore. It was really weak. I have been more inclined to believe that after that fiasco Pop made him sit for the full length of an IR stint to prove a point to him. Many players have played hurt or sick-- until the point at which they have been told to go home or stop.
Looking over the interview, what bugs me the most is that he takes some true statements and then tries to apply them to himself when they simply do not apply. He says that the NBA is a business and there is no sentimentality and the profit motive. That is true- but that would apply if you were explaining why Malik or Rasho got traded or why Barry almost got traded-- not why NVE played instead of Beno. And the whole notion that Nick played over Beno because he is an American is ridiculous! Again, there are Euro players who were given a hard time- who had teammates who were not supportive... but that does not apply to Beno at all. His logic makes no sense.
Most disappointing is his acting as if putting in some extra time after practice is too much work. Last season Rasho had a game for the Raptors in which he did not play. After the game without a word being said to him, he went and worked out that night-- lifted, ran, shot,... to simulate playing in a game for his body and conditioning. That is what a player should do when you are a professional basketball player.
I drew the conclusion barely halfway through his rookie year that as a younger player things came too easy for Beno. He is like the smart kid in school who never had to put forth any effort. At some point in life- you reach the point at which other people are just as good, or just as smart, or just as talented, and you finally have to put forth the effort and rise-- or fall by the side. Beno has fallen by the side, and he does not appear to be getting up.
His NBA career is on the line and his priority is a vacation. The season ended almost 2 months ago. Sure- take a couple of weeks off, but that is it. It was time to get back to work a month ago.
Beno is a pussy
beno is happy he got a chance in the nba
and has a nba pension
he is soooooooooooooooo braindead
I Lost All Respect For Beno After Reading This.
Piss Off Beno. You Dont Deserve To Belong To The Spurs.
Other Players Would Kill To Be In Your Position. And Youre ing Whining About It.
Come on people. Most of you sound up in arms and shocked and/or surprised about his at ude and reponses here.
What did everyone know about Beno? If it's one thing, the one reason he doesn't get on the court is he is mentally weak. Not mentally strong/tough enough to play for Pop. Period. All this interview shows is what we already knew, he's giving answers of a mentally weak and dillusional person.
YEah, his defense sucks. YEah, his shooting has gone south. But Pop can put up with sorry ass shooting for a long time as long as the shooters keep shooting. As long as the effort is there on defense, doesn't care if you're Steve Kerr or Barry or NVE with half a knee. The EFFORT and mental toughness will keep you on the court until your shot comes back.
Pop knows this guy can shoot, he doesn't care if he's struggling with his shot. But while your shot sucks, you better do the other things. Beno didn't. Despite what Beno says, his shot sucked early this year. When you do that AND make mistakes on D, don't put the desperate effort on D, don't show mental toughness... you have literally become worthless. And to be given 15mins/gm for half the season to right yourself, consider yourself lucky.
Bye Beno.
wow Beno. this is even worse than ur space....
Exactly.
Beno has been a drama queen regarding injuries since his days back in Europe. The odd thing is he's never been seriously injured. He gets everyday bumps, bruises and illnesses and he can't handle it.
Perhaps you can explain to stampler why trusting Beno when it comes to injuries isn't a good idea.
As Slomo said in another thread, Beno is hurting all the future Slovenians who try to make it in the NBA. It's human nature for GM's to look at the history of players from the same background when judging a young player. Beno is single-handedly skewing Slovenia's reputation more and more with not only his play and the way he can't handle the physicality of the NBA, but also now his words in which he comes across as bitter and a bad apple.
I still can't believe what Beno was spouting last year.
"I've never had to work on my game or my shot so I don't know why I have to start now." -- Beno
That's just insanity coming from a professional athlete.
Slomo and others drew that conclusion when Beno was drafted. I saw that in him in summer league. He's a very talented player and a nice guy to boot.
But he has zero drive to improve. He's soft in all aspects of the word. And to top it off, he might be the dumbest Spur of the last two decades. He's not bright at all -- which explains some of his comments and some of his approach. A person with a half a brain cell wouldn't openly lie like he's doing and would realize how lucky he is.
Yeah, I've been saying this all summer. Although some in Beno camp tried to float rumors that Beno was trying to get in shape. The truth is Beno is just as lazy as ever, if not more lazy.
Lazy + Dumb + Arrogant + Dishonest + Spoiled + Two-Faced + Conceited != A successful person in any area of life, especially a field as compe ive as the NBA
Great take.
That's what some people don't understand. Yeah, NVE was horrible but he was giving it 100%. He was getting cortisone shots in his elbow just to get out there and limp around on his bone-on-bone knee condition. On the other hand you had Beno taking his time coming back from the flu and a mild ankle sprain.
Give me the option 100 times and 100 times I'll go with the desperate veteran who is putting his future health on the line to win a championship over the chubby diva who doesn't care about winning.
The funny thing is, he said himself that he knows that on a team with the likes of Parker and Ginobili and Finley, he shouldn't expect more than 15 minutes a game.
He averaged 13 mpg this season, and that was spending the majority of the time in Pop's doghouse. So it's not like he isn't getting any time. And considering he's out there to be a three-point threat, that 28% from the arc wasn't impressing anybody. A damn near 2-1 assist-to-turnover ratio ain't nothin' to scream about for a point gaurd, either.
What more does this dude expect?
I'd hate to see the committee that looks at the likes of 'Beno Udrih' and 'Rasho Nesterovic' on the chalkboard, and thinks it might be adding up to something.
Then again, someone apparently thought a sequel for Fantastic Four was a good idea, so anything is possible.
Say what you want about Rasho, but the truth is, if Beno had his work ethic and relation to the press this thread (and many others) wouldn`t be here.
If letting Terry or Harris go by you every single time like you're a pylon is giving it 100%, then I can give Pop 110%. The only good thing about signing NVE was that it was a package deal that brought Fin here since NVE recruited him. But he sucked ass, plain and simple.
And for the love of God, stop using the term "takes." You're not Jim Rome, this is not "The Jungle" and Jim Everett didn't whoop your ass on live TV 15 years ago. They're not takes, they're opinions. You're like being a poser of a poser.
There's a few very good posts here.
Regarding the discrimination of foreign basketball players. There have been cases in the past (probably still is a few problems in some teams) that have been well publicized in Europe (I kinda remember even Drazen Petrovic having some problems of the kind). But I haven't seen any serious/trustworthy reports recently. Especially not with the Spurs. And even less with Popovich - who if anything is getting criticized for using too many foreigners. (I agree completely with the poster that said he's the same asshole to everybody - it's a beautiful talent)
My impression is that Beno is just trying to ride that bus and it's a cheap and easy way to convince people who have no knowledge about the NBA of how difficult his life is (I mean he has to have two welcome parties - how inhuman is that!).
The Pop Defense/mental toughness argument is a very good one. As demonstrated over the past few seasons anybody with some intelligence and a healthy bank balance can build a very good team (cough*Dallas*cough) but a championship winning team requires toughness, discipline and a desire to succeed alongside talent. You either agree with Pop's method or you don't but there is no denying that without the mental toughness that he creates we wouldn't be looking at a repeat attempt for the 5th time.
And finally I can't believe he somehow thinks in today's telecommunication bonanza that his comments about Slovenia in the US press won't get back to us and of course vice versa.
Some more revisionist history. Finley said NVE wasn't a factor in him signing with the Spurs.
I guess I understand why you love Beno so much. You are both great at altering history while embarrassing yourself.
And the forum roars in laughter . . .
Stick to your day job of defending Manu. At least those takes are halfway factually correct.
I've asked you to broaden your horizons, but now I see that I was in error. I apologize. You were wrong so many times in this thread it was comical. Go back to your role. Please?
"Why shouldn't the Spurs believe Beno when he says he's hurt? What makes his injury history any different than anyone else? Have you seen his points per 40 the guys rocks! I still don't know why he stopped playing for no reason at the end of 2006 or got benched after Game 3. I mean this guy is obviously getting better and better."
I wonder if Aaron knows that Beno is only Metro and not full blown playing for the other team. Might change the man-crush he has going...Some more revisionist history. Finley said NVE wasn't a factor in him signing with the Spurs.
I guess I understand why you love Beno so much. You are both great at altering history while embarrassing yourself.
And the forum roars in laughter . . .
Stick to your day job of defending Manu. At least those takes are halfway factually correct.
I've asked you to broaden your horizons, but now I see that I was in error. I apologize. You were wrong so many times in this thread it was comical. Go back to your role. Please?
"Why shouldn't the Spurs believe Beno when he says he's hurt? What makes his injury history any different than anyone else? Have you seen his points per 40 the guys rocks! I still don't know why he stopped playing for no reason at the end of 2006 or got benched after Game 3. I mean this guy is obviously getting better and better."
Do not in any way, shape, or form equate Rasho to Beno. They couldn't be any more different in their approaches to how they view their jobs as professionals. Rasho has said that he knows players who were more naturally talented- obviously more gifted athletically- but that they did not make it because they did not want to work hard. Sure, he would have loved to have spent the summer lying on a beach somewhere, but when he was Beno's age, Rasho was spending a month of his summer in the mountains working on his conditioning. The summer the Spurs signed Rasho, a visit to him in Slovenia found him working out twice a day. He has NEVER had Beno's at ude or iness or sense of en lement. Think you will ever read an article like this about Beno?
Nesterovic a consistent professional
Or a comment like this:
"I played with Rasho (in Minnesota) so I knew he knew how to play and what a pro he was but coaching him now, you come to appreciate what it is to be a professional in this league," said Mitc .
He has the talent. The difference is all in the effort.
its more than that. Look at Vaughn, he is all effort. if you combine Vaughn and Beno into 1 player, you still end up with a player that is not even 1/2 as good as Paker or Manu. Parker/Manu are phenoms.
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