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    what PPV records have they broken lately? 100million dollar TV deal isn't that big in the realm of sports.

    Give me some facts. I bet their PPV numbers have slowly declined since o vs LIddell. Not a shocker the UFC 75 is for free. I promise you if they could make a killing on PPV they would.
    Your the one who made the comment, you do your research.

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    Your the one who made the comment, you do your research.
    your response was they keep breaking PPV. You made first mention of it.

    Nevertheless, that's what I thought. Spouting off at the mouth with nothing to support your argument.

    here's a little perspective for you. The New York Yankees last television deal was for $850 million.
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    your response was they keep breaking PPV. You made first mention of it.

    Nevertheless, that's what I thought. Spouting off at the mouth with nothing to support your argument.
    You little troll.....you said this first "The novelty is wearing off."

    MMA keeps breaking its own PPV buys records, I never said boxing.

    Boxing has now, and will probably always have the highest PPV buys. They have one huge mega event every couple years. And thats fine. You and I keep arguing about this but I am a boxing fan. I love both sports although I am able to see boxings flaws, unlike most fans which I will never understand. Why cant fans see the flaws in their sport? Why don't they want them fixed?

    MMA has tons and tons of huge PPV's all year long so they will NEVER have that huge mega card that everyone talks about because the next PPV is right around the corner.

    Look at this...

    AUGUST 25 - ShoXC on Showtime
    AUGUST 25 - UFC 74
    SEPT 1 - ART OF WAR 3
    SEPT 5 - WEC 30
    SEPT 8 - UFC 75
    SEPT 15 - ELITEXC on Showtime
    SEPT 17 - K-1 HERO’s MW Tourny Semi-finals
    SEPT 19 - UFC FIGHT NIGHT 11
    SEPT 19 - TUF 6 begins
    SEPT 20 - IFL League Finals
    SEPT 22 - UFC 76
    SEPT 22 - CAGE RAGE 23
    SEPT 29 - Malice at Heff’s Palace

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    here's a little perspective for you. The New York Yankees last television deal was for $850 million.
    WHO CARES?!

    Were talking about your MMA is losing momentum comment. Stick to the topic.

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    Give me some facts. I bet their PPV numbers have slowly declined since o vs LIddell. Not a shocker the UFC 75 is for free. I promise you if they could make a killing on PPV they would.
    They did a PPV in Ireland at 2:00 in the afternoon for UFC 72 and it wasn't a hit (didn't help that the card sucked!). The only reason UFC 75 is free is because it's in London...

    Please explain how the "novelty" has worn off?? Based on what???

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    They did a PPV in Ireland at 2:00 in the afternoon for UFC 72 and it wasn't a hit (didn't help that the card sucked!). The only reason UFC 75 is free is because it's in London...

    Please explain how the "novelty" has worn off?? Based on what???
    first you need to read the post accurately. I didn't say worn off. I said wearing off. There's a difference. MMA has benefited from the unexplained reason things like Bum Fights did so well. I bet if there was a sanctioned gladiator fight it would do well too. MMA is entering into a period where the sport has got to maintain it's popularity now that the blood and guts crowd has come and gone.

    There are some weaknesses in the sport of MMA, but it seems like fans of that sport are blinder than bats.

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    first you need to read the post accurately. I didn't say worn off. I said wearing off. There's a difference. MMA has benefited from the unexplained reason things like Bum Fights did so well. I bet if there was a sanctioned gladiator fight it would do well too. MMA is entering into a period where the sport has got to maintain it's popularity now that the blood and guts crowd has come and gone.

    There are some weaknesses in the sport of MMA, but it seems like fans of that sport are blinder than bats.
    Ahhhhhh...got me on a technicality... Wow...

    So it's WEARING off because the "blood and guts" crowd has come and gone? What are you basing that on? When did they get here and when did they leave??

    Bum fights? WTF? Minimize much?? What does bum fights have to do with the UFC?? When has bum fights ever been anything more than garbage on a website?? I must've missed ESPN covering bum fights...

    What sport doesn't have weaknesses? And I've certainly never said it doesn't. What are the UFC's weaknesses in your opinion?

    You say it's only been a sport for 3 yrs also...maybe you could explain that to me while you're at it...
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    lol, nah i just don't really care for randy or ganzaga and as much as i wanna see kos get his ass whooped i don't really care for the other fighters and the mir fight with probaly be a snooze fest
    how the do you not like randy?!?!?!

    thats un-american

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    what PPV records have they broken lately? 100million dollar TV deal isn't that big in the realm of sports.

    Give me some facts. I bet their PPV numbers have slowly declined since o vs LIddell. Not a shocker the UFC 75 is for free. I promise you if they could make a killing on PPV they would.
    What most casual UFC fans don't relize is that Randy/Gonzaga will be alot better fight than ortiz/liddell. They care about the names not watching a good fight.

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    Preview videos are starting to show up on ufc.com
    http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=Multimedia.home

    Performity's picks
    http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/08/23/perf...-picks-ufc-74/

    Kurt Pellegrino and Randy Couture on "Whoop Ass" radio today...
    http://bloodyelbow.com/story/2007/8/23/174647/879

    Couture was on the Stephen Quadros show on Tuesday...he picked GSP over Koscheck.
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/radio.asp?id=287

    GSP on Savage Dog Show
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/radio.asp?id=288

    Koscheck says he has a surprise in store for GSP and the fans
    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...articleid=4561

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    Koscheck says he has a surprise in store for GSP and the fans
    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...articleid=4561
    A watchable stand up?

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    He's just talkin' I'm sure...

    Hopefully we'll see his head in the 3rd row...

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    Did anybody hear Couture on Rome's radio show today? I missed it.

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    I missed it but I have about 5 hours of Randy Couture stuff set for my DVR tonight.

    I love the old man.

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    Quote from a sherdog write up on UFC 74

    If Gonzaga wins...

    " Gonzaga will be then on top of the world in the eyes of casual UFC fans."

    More UFC bias. I don't understand that comment. It insinuates UFC fans are dumb and don't understand what makes a good fighter. Granted he may not be number one but he will (should he win) be close to the top. He will have beaten two of the best at HW in the span of a little over 4 months. Fedor can't say that. No other heavyweight can. Maybe he would be the number one HW. I may not agree 100% but I wouldn't argue with anyone should they say it.

    I love sherdog but their bias is getting old. Don't take your hatred of Dana out on the fans......

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=8721

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    It seems more to me that he's ripping on the casual, uninformed mma fan than UFC fans in general. Don't take it so personally

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    Quote from a sherdog write up on UFC 74

    If Gonzaga wins...

    " Gonzaga will be then on top of the world in the eyes of casual UFC fans."

    More UFC bias. I don't understand that comment. It insinuates UFC fans are dumb and don't understand what makes a good fighter. Granted he may not be number one but he will (should he win) be close to the top. He will have beaten two of the best at HW in the span of a little over 4 months. Fedor can't say that. No other heavyweight can. Maybe he would be the number one HW. I may not agree 100% but I wouldn't argue with anyone should they say it.

    I love sherdog but their bias is getting old. Don't take your hatred of Dana out on the fans......

    http://www.sherdog.com/news/articles.asp?n_id=8721
    No kidding. Sherdog is becoming like it's boards -- stupid elitists. Fedor needs to sign with UFC already.

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    It seems more to me that he's ripping on the casual, uninformed mma fan than UFC fans in general. Don't take it so personally
    I think part of the point is that the UFC is the biggest and best organization. If there are top fighters in these classes that don't fight in the UFC, why is it stupid of someone that doesn't follow lower organizations than UFC to say that person would be #1?

    I understand that not all of the greatest fighters have to be in the UFC, but how can you keep calling them #1? You have to fight the best to be the best. If Fedor never fights anyone ranked for awhile, does he stay #1?

    This is the current problem in MMA versus the way boxing works.

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    It seems more to me that he's ripping on the casual, uninformed mma fan than UFC fans in general. Don't take it so personally
    I see what your saying, but its always the UFC fan thats referenced. Always. For years. Ever since they busted out the knee pads for PRIDE.

    And keep in mind, I am also referencing the entire collection of work by the great sherdog, not just this one write up. Its just getting old.
    Last edited by Evan; 08-24-2007 at 09:43 AM.

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    No kidding. Sherdog is becoming like it's boards -- stupid elitists.
    Excellent point. A lot of sherdog is very elite and for some reason I cannot understand, extremely hostile to casual / and or new fans. Its almost as if your expected to have volumes of knowledge of this great sport the moment you decide you’re a fan or your for some reason not as "good" as fans who have been following for years.

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    I see what your saying, but its always the UFC fan thats referenced. Always. For years. Ever since they busted out the knee pads for PRIDE.

    And keep in mind, I am also referencing the entire collection of work by the great sherdog, not just this one write up. Its just getting old.
    Please, don't get me wrong, there is obvious bias coming from Sherdog. It's pretty hard to miss. There's just no point in getting worked up about it I'm not fond of it either, but I'm not going to get my dander up.

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    Please, don't get me wrong, there is obvious bias coming from Sherdog. It's pretty hard to miss. There's just no point in getting worked up about it I'm not fond of it either, but I'm not going to get my dander up.
    Yeah but how are you supposed to pass the day at work?



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    Everybody adapts their own survival techniques.

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    Weigh-ins online at 5:50, or 6:00 on ESPNews...
    http://ufcjunkie.com/2007/08/24/ufc-...events-center/

    Pre-fight Press Conf and all the fighter videos are up...
    http://www.ufc.com/index.cfm?fa=MultiMedia.video

    Thales Leites Highlight...
    http://bloodyelbow.com/story/2007/8/24/16353/2695

    Leites interview...
    http://www.sherdog.com/news/interviews.asp?n_id=8704

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    Leites came in at 188 with shorts on...has 2 hrs to cut 2 lbs including shorts...

    Babalu - Heath had an intense staredown...

    Huerta tried to shake Crane's hand after the staredown and he was late to stick his hand out, so Huerta yanked his back...kinda awkward...

    HW: Champion Randy Couture (228.5 lbs.) vs. Gabriel Gonzaga (252 lbs.)
    LW: Alberto Crane (155 lbs.) vs. Roger Huerta (155 lbs.)
    WW: Georges St. Pierre (170 lbs.) vs. Josh Koscheck (170 lbs.)
    LW: Joe Stevenson (155 lbs.) vs. Kurt Pellegrino (155 lbs.)
    MW: Patrick Cote (184.5 lbs.) vs. Kendall Grove (184 lbs.)
    MW: Ryan Jensen (185 lbs.) vs. Thales Leites (188 lbs.)
    LH: David Heath (205 lbs.) vs. Renato “Babalu” Sobral (204 lbs.)
    HW: Antoni Hardonk (244 lbs.) vs. Frank Mir (255 lbs.)
    LW: Marcus Aurelio (155 lbs.) vs. Clay Guida (155 lbs.)

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