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  1. #76
    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    DOJ being politicized! You got to be kidding. Clinton
    fired everyone of the Federal Prosecutors and no one
    blinked an eye. Al fired eight and you would think some
    crime was committed. Of course most of you Dimms do
    think that the case. No crime has been committed. The
    hearing is for one purpose only. Trying to get someone
    to mis-state something so they can be tried for
    perjury. Ring a bell.

    Federal prosecutors serve at the will of the President. He
    can fire them anytime he feels like it, for any reason.

    As I have said twice already, the dimm-o-craps are
    just doing their normal thing. Politics of personal
    destruction.

    Can anyone tell me what crime they have uncovered
    yet? Come on big mouths tell me just one they have
    found with their hearing on the firings.


    ray it took Ken Starr 6 yrs to finally stumble iunto something on Slick Willy..will you give the dems more than 8 months?

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    Why would Rush lie to Xray? He's just a kindly old man minding his own business. Why would Rush do that to him?

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    Why would Rush lie to Xray? He's just a kindly old man minding his own business. Why would Rush do that to him?

    well hush is 98% accurate..his own research company says so..

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    Um, they found enough that Alberto Gonzales was essentially forced to resign. If there wasn't a real problem with the manner in which DOJ has operated under Gonzales, I'm quite certain that there wouldn't have been a resignation.
    ray it took Ken Starr 6 yrs to finally stumble iunto something on Slick Willy..will you give the dems more than 8 months?
    Cant think of any crime so you come up with these lame
    statements.

    well hush is 98% accurate..his own research company says so..
    More than most MSM can say. And it isn't his "own"
    research company.

    You are thinking of the guru of the dimms global warming
    crowd. Al Gore who sells himself carbon credits.

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    Al Gore should resign.

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    You guys are too much for ray to handle.

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    another deep thought from WC:

    Bush roolz, Hillary droolz!!

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    You guys are too much for ray to handle.
    No I am too much for them to handle. But then I wouldn't
    want their hands on me...........

    But then, they know they are wrong and I am right. So
    I am quite content.

    Hey smeagol, you gonna turn into boutons and bold stuff
    now?

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    No I am too much for them to handle. But then I wouldn't
    want their hands on me...........

    But then, they know they are wrong and I am right. So
    I am quite content.

    Hey smeagol, you gonna turn into boutons and bold stuff
    now?
    I hope every word you just wrote was steeped in sarcasm sans the blue text.

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    keep asking questions George Gervin's Afro's Avatar
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    I hope every word you just wrote was steeped in sarcasm sans the blue text.

    No, ray believes everything he wants to. he never lets facts get in the way of his opinion..

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    No, ray believes everything he wants to. he never lets facts get in the way of his opinion..
    And GGA what are facts in this case? Do you have
    any idea.

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    i hunt fenced animals clambake's Avatar
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    And GGA what are facts in this case? Do you have
    any idea.
    yes. he resigned because the propaganda out weighed the truth. but don't ask him. i'm sure he can't recall.

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    Actually I can't believe he lasted this long, especially after having burned to death all those people at Waco, I think it was something like 75 - about 20 of them were children. For that alone he should be brought to justice, we know what to do to people like that in Texas. Add to that the storming of the house in Florida, to take Elian Gonzalez by force to send him back to Cuba - this guy is just worthless, good riddance.

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    yes. he resigned because the propaganda out weighed the truth. but don't ask him. i'm sure he can't recall.
    Al Sanchez is this generation's Sgt Schultz.


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    Actually I can't believe he lasted this long, especially after having burned to death all those people at Waco, I think it was something like 75 - about 20 of them were children. For that alone he should be brought to justice, we know what to do to people like that in Texas. Add to that the storming of the house in Florida, to take Elian Gonzalez by force to send him back to Cuba - this guy is just worthless, good riddance.
    At least Reno knew how to fire US attorneys for political reasons without getting into trouble for it, I guess.

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    Hey smeagol, you gonna turn into boutons and bold stuff
    now?
    I've been bolding names since I started posting here.

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    so, gonzo buckled under to a witch hunt? guess he never heard that "sticks and stones" thing.
    Typical. Ignore the key point that he cannot do his job when all his time is now wasted defending his actions.

    Answer that please, instead of ignoring this key relavant fact.

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    The intended sarcasm will go over his head. He actually believes that.
    Yea right. I usually just ignore such stupid implied thoughts. I use sarcasm too, but a little differently.

    If you guys think such things go over my head... Well, I don't know if you're being taunting, or ignorant of my intelligence.
    Last edited by Wild Cobra; 08-28-2007 at 05:53 PM. Reason: spelling

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    Typical. Ignore the key point that he cannot do his job when all his time is now wasted defending his actions.

    Answer that please, instead of ignoring this key relavant fact.
    Why couldn't Gonzales simply answer the questions he was asked?

    And really, he couldn't do his job because he had to testify to congress a couple of days more than the usual AG has had to? Is he really that incompetent?

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    WC pulled the same with me when I argued the precedent of a Republican filibuster for a Supreme Court nomination.

    OH but that one didnt count cause it was completely justified and the Democrats were just being evil.
    And you are completely ignorant to the point I was making about it, or you refuse to admit I have a point. I'll admit that this republican/democrat usage of these investigations is not clear cut. The difference in how the filibuster was used for the nominees was clear cut however.

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    Typical. Ignore the key point that he cannot do his job when all his time is now wasted defending his actions.

    Answer that please, instead of ignoring this key relavant fact.

    There was no need to obfuscate about why those attorneys were let go. There was nothing wrong with the reason why those firings happened. If someone was going to dislike the administration about that then they already disliked the administration. Frankly, the same could be said about the wiretap questioning and the bedside visit to Ashcroft. Gonzales is out because he did not handle his Senate visits with candor. Simple enough.

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    Yes. I would love to find out why Bush and his surrogates knowingly pushed 'questionable and un-verifiable' intelligence information to justify the rush into Iraq. If we could only get the truth.
    This has been asked and answered over and over. You just won't accept the truth that this was the accepted consensus of the intelligence community.

    I see so people who aren't truthful to Congress get a pass but lying under oath in a civil proceeding is an impeachable offense.
    Who lied when? Just because it was reported doesn't make it fact. If you have evidence of actual lies under oath by the republicans, then I'm sure the democrats would like you to share it with them.

    The clinton's were investigated from the day they took office. I am not sure if you have ever been involved with investigative work but it's amazing that the GOP Congress felt the need to start right away. The democrats in turn have been in the majority for 8 months and accoprding to you they have abused the power to investigate when the GOP congress ok'd it for 8 yrs?
    I don't have a clear recall of those past events. I am confident however that there was cause for most the investigations.

    If Clinton would not have perjured himself the 8 yrs would have been for naught.. but it's the dems who have abused the power..
    I don't follow what you mean.

    Ken Starr is a republican hack.. history will show that. But in all fairness the GOP didn't and won't invetigate itself (see mark Foley)
    And selected by Janet Reno. I don't know. Maybe. Should we also call Fitzgerald a democrat hack? Think about it. A lawyer gets the case of his life. Isn't he or she going to make the best of it? I don't know the politics of either of them. I think they just gave it all they could.

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    Um, they found enough that Alberto Gonzales was essentially forced to resign. If there wasn't a real problem with the manner in which DOJ has operated under Gonzales, I'm quite certain that there wouldn't have been a resignation.
    And other people say other things. I will grant you that your statement is one of several possibilities. I simply find it far more likely without convincing evidence that Gonzales could no longer do his job while he was being investigated. His defense and inquiries became a full time job itself.

    Can anyone step up and agree that is a possibility, or are you all bent on believing the worst?

    Let's face it. We will not really know the truth, and most of it is speculation.

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    He made himself a friggin' liability by lying to Congress. While that can result in all kind of neat Cons utional sturm und drang, politically it was worse than having just told the truth to begin with. Gonzlaes put himself in a position to where Bush didn't refuse to let one of his buddies go, which he hardly ever does until his buddies' political corpse has had 100 rounds emptied into it and then hung by the neck while immolated. My God, Gonzales ed up, what is so hard to understand about that?

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    Typical. Ignore the key point that he cannot do his job when all his time is now wasted defending his actions.

    Answer that please, instead of ignoring this key relavant fact.
    turns out he can't remember any days on the job. why defend what he's doing if even he can't remember?

    bottomline: he quit under the consequences of false accusations? if this is true then he's not an AG.

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