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    I think you're the one that engaged me...
    Heeeeey! Take that to another room!

    GOD!

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    You didn't have much of a point to refute since Franks' story bears no resemblance to Craig's.

    Besides -- Craig isn't gay -- he just said so.

    Oh, and just between you and me, I'm purposely misrepresenting what you said to distract others from the fact that you've completely manhandled me in this thread..
    Understood, and I promise to keep that little admission between the two of us.

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    Understood, and I promise to keep that little admission between the two of us.
    What the ?!

    WTF is going on around here?!

    Im surrounded by s!!

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    ...feel like Im in Congress again...

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    I wasn't the one that brought Franks into the discussion (I realize that you're not implying that I did...), and I agree that the comparison wasn't a good one.


    Oh, and a generic labeling of the GOP as being "gay bashing" is an outdated and unwarranted generalization.
    As Barney Frank so eloquently put it, "most people aren't phobic".
    Actually the quote is "most people aren’t phobic, they just feel that they are supposed to be."

    http://media.www.dukechronicle.com/m...-1471702.shtml

    He said most people bear gays no ill will, but they are influenced by respected citizens, such as the president, who say gay marriage will be socially chaotic. “Unfortunately, many people believe them,” Frank added.



    Not that it's a big deal, I'm just sure you want the truth. There it is.

    You're welcome.

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    Actually the quote is "most people aren’t phobic, they just feel that they are supposed to be."
    Not that it's a big deal, I'm just sure you want the truth. There it is.

    You're welcome.
    And I submitted that he stated "most people aren't phobic".

    And my post of his quote was false?

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    It was quite incomplete, and the context dovetailed rather nicely with Craig, one of those (formerly) respected citizens who influenced others to act in a phobic manner, even if he contends they are not naturally so inclined.

    Not that it's a big deal, I'm just sure you want to know the truth. There it is.

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    OK. We know this guy is finished as a republican, and I say good. My question is:

    Would he still have a job if he were a democrat being caught under the same situation?

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    Oh, and a generic labeling of the GOP as being "gay bashing" is an outdated and unwarranted generalization.
    As Barney Frank so eloquently put it, "most people aren't phobic".
    You're having a time with leaving things out of quotes tonight, like the word political in front of the gay bashing. What this administration and it's previous GOP Congresses have done can hardly be described otherwise.

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    Anyways, what was Craig thinking by pleading guilty? All the cop had was that he tapped his feet and what not. Out of the ordinary? Sure. But not conclusive. It's not like he directly asked the cop to !@#$ his !@#$. I guess he thought it would be easier if he just got it over with.

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    You're having a time with leaving things out of quotes tonight, like the word political in front of the gay bashing. What this administration and it's previous GOP Congresses have done can hardly be described otherwise.
    Quite the stretch to make a point and you still fell far short of doing so.

    But pray tell ex, what's this huge difference in the following statements that inspired you to make such a stink?

    exstatic
    You categorized the GOP as being:
    "the politically gay bashing GOP"

    jochhejaam
    My post of your categorization of the GOP:
    the GOP as being "gay bashing"

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    Quite the stretch to make a point and you still fell far short of doing so.

    But pray tell ex, what's this huge difference in the following statements that inspired you to make such a stink?

    exstatic
    You categorized the GOP as being:
    "the politically gay bashing GOP"

    jochhejaam
    My post of your categorization of the GOP:
    the GOP as being "gay bashing"
    Minus the political, it implies some sort of Krystal Nacht physicality of assault that isn't there. Political versus physical. An assualt on rights, and not their persons. Got it?

    BTW, it wasn't a "stink", at least not in my book. Just another case of having to explain nuances to you.

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    Anyways, what was Craig thinking by pleading guilty? All the cop had was that he tapped his feet and what not. Out of the ordinary? Sure. But not conclusive. It's not like he directly asked the cop to !@#$ his !@#$. I guess he thought it would be easier if he just got it over with.
    do you seriously think the noted US senator wanted the undercover cop to "!@#$ his !@#$? or the other way around? i tend to say he intended the latter.

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    And you're the one that engaged me without refuting what the point I made. In fact, you've submitted 4 post in response to me without making any points whatsoever, so not only have you been the one to make a big deal out of my post, but you've simultaneoulsy managed to make an arse out of yourself.
    He seems to have a habbit of that. I still cannot get any facts from him that are more than slander, hearsay, etc.

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    you don't know even the meaning of those words, but thanks for making the thread about me.

    Hypocrite.

    "habbit"

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    you don't know even the meaning of those words, but thanks for making the thread about me.
    You're welcome.

    Hypocrite.

    "habbit"
    Yes, in this case I am. I asked for a separate thread to dump on me if people must, and what do I do...

    I just couldn't help myself. Someone else noticing you supply useless and irrelevant information, and even avoiding real questions by others.

    Oh yes… I made a spelling error. Real significant finding.

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    Ooops... I got sidetracked.

    I meant to add that I want people like this out, conservative or otherwise. Not that it looks like he is gay, but he was exceptionally stupid in handling the matter. His orientation does not matter to me.

    If he was innocent and plead guilty (which I doubt being true) then he was stupid not to fight for the truth of a case which would be hard to prove. If he was guilty of the charge (which I believe) then he was stupid in engaging in such trolling for others in that manner.

    I would hope to have congress members with at least average intelligence.

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    Just another in a long series of errors. You just aren't very intelligent. It's not a crime. Neither is hypocrisy.

    As for the Senator, he either broke the law he was charged with breaking or he perjured himself before a judge when he said he did. I don't think either warrants flat out removal from office, but it's still pretty hilarious.

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    Minus the political, it implies some sort of Krystal Nacht physicality of assault that isn't there. Political versus physical. An assualt on rights, and not their persons. Got it?

    BTW, it wasn't a "stink", at least not in my book. Just another case of having to explain nuances to you.
    Only those that are comprehension challenged would have read my post and interpreted "the GOP as gay bashing" to mean a physical bashing.
    Sorry (but not surprised) to hear you fit into that category.

    RIF
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    Heard a snippet about Craig and congressional page 25 years ago.



    "Sexual orientation

    Craig is married with three adopted children, but as early as 1982 the mainstream media has reported claims that he has had sex with men. In 1982, Craig appeared on NBC News to deny rumors about cocaine use and sex with male teenage congressional pages (the next year, the 1983 Congressional page sex scandal broke, but Craig was not implicated).[23]

    In October 2006, gay activist blogger Mike Rogers, who has earned a controversial reputation for outing political conservatives, alleged on his blog that Craig was gay. Craig called the claim "completely ridiculous."[24]

    On August 28, 2007 the Idaho Statesman published a series of allegations about Craig's sexual activities, and his responses to them, that it had withheld until his conviction came to light:


    • A college student who was considering pledging at Craig's fraternity at the University of Idaho in 1967 told the Statesman that Craig led the student to his bedroom and "made what the man said he took to be an invitation to sex." Craig responded: "I don't hit on any men."[25]

    • A gay man told the Statesman that in November 1994, Craig cruised him at the REI store in Boise, following him around the store for half an hour. Craig responded: "I'm not gay, and I don't cruise, and I don't hit on men. I have no idea how he drew that conclusion. A smile? Here is one thing I do out in public: I make eye contact, I smile at people, they recognize me, they say, ‘Oh, hi, Senator.' Or, ‘Do I know you?' I've been in this business 27 years in the public eye here. I don't go around anywhere hitting on men, and by God, if I did, I wouldn't do it in Boise, Idaho! Jiminy!"[26]

    • A professional 40-year-old man with close ties to Republican officials "reported having oral sex with Craig at Washington's Union Station, probably in 2004." Craig responded: "I am not gay and I have never been in a restroom in Union Station having sex with anybody."[27]"

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Craig

    and

    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/0...g-denial-1982/

    ==============

    Where's there's that much smoke, ...

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    2nd Verse Same as the 1st Oh, Gee!!'s Avatar
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    Unless Frank has always been open about his sexuality then there was a time where he wasn't honest about what he holds himself out to be.
    Wow. I can't believe you're casting stones at someone for not coming out more quickly. You're such a ing idiot and rarely bring any insight to these discussions. Please go away.

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    I am not gay....I just do gay .
    dumbass
    Last edited by Oh, Gee!!; 08-29-2007 at 07:20 AM.

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    I love this . Did you hear what Romney said when questioned about the Craig Pole Hunting adventure?

    Romney blamed Clinton.

    Maybe Romney does read spurstalk!!!!

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    I love this . Did you hear what Romney said when questioned about the Craig Pole Hunting adventure?

    Romney blamed Clinton.

    Maybe Romney does read spurstalk!!!!
    Well, in all fairness Bill Clinton was a "naughty boy"

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