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    CDs Nuts. resistanze's Avatar
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    By the way, no way in is Kidd better than Nash. There's a reason has 2 MVP's and Kidd has 0, and it isn't because he has better talent on his team. Kidd has Carter, Jefferson and Krstic. And if you don't know about Nenad Krstic yet, you will soon.

    And I find all of you praising how good Kidd's defense is HILARIOUS. He's servicable and he has good hands, but let's not get carried away. Anthony Johnson anyone?
    By that same logic:

    "There's a reason why Kidd has 2 Finals appearances and Nash has 0, and it isn't because he plays in a harder Conference. Nash has won 2 MVPs and has a record of 177-69 over the past 3 seasons. He also had Amare, Marion, Barbosa, Joe Johnson and Raja Bell."

    It doesn't even bother me that someone would say Nash > Kidd, but using # of MVPs is a weak argument.

    Nash and Duncan both have 2 MVPs, so Steve Nash = Tim Duncan?

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    I'd even place Deron Williams b4 Chris Paul.

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    By that same logic:

    "There's a reason why Kidd has 2 Finals appearances and Nash has 0, and it isn't because he plays in a harder Conference. Nash has won 2 MVPs and has a record of 177-69 over the past 3 seasons. He also had Amare, Marion, Barbosa, Joe Johnson and Raja Bell."

    It doesn't even bother me that someone would say Nash > Kidd, but using # of MVPs is a weak argument.

    Nash and Duncan both have 2 MVPs, so Steve Nash = Tim Duncan?
    Actually, Nash does play in a much harder conference. In the era Kidd was winning the east in, Allen Iverson's 6ers were in contention. I rest my case.

    I never said MVP was the be all and end all, it was just a part of my argument. Pull your head out of your ass. I was saying that Nash has 2 of them and Kidd has 0. He has never really been in consideration for one, either. Besides 2003, I think it was, and his numbers were nothing special -- also played in a conference that was god awful.

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    Actually, Nash does play in a much harder conference. In the era Kidd was winning the east in, Allen Iverson's 6ers were in contention. I rest my case.
    So the what? The Suns finished 1st in 2005 and 2nd in 2006 and 2007 playing in the West. It's not as if they're the 5th seed in the West and you can make a legitimate case that they'd be the first seed in the East -- how do you finish first and second in the harder Conference then use the difficulty of that Conference as an excuse when you fail to make the Finals in 3 tries?

    You must surely agree with this point, since you must agree that 2005-07 Suns >>>> 2001-03 Nets, as you implied with your 76ers contending in a weak Conference example.

    I never said MVP was the be all and end all, it was just a part of my argument. Pull your head out of your ass. I was saying that Nash has 2 of them and Kidd has 0. He has never really been in consideration for one, either. Besides 2003, I think it was, and his numbers were nothing special -- also played in a conference that was god awful.
    And Jason Kidd has 9 NBA All-Defensive Team selections to Nash's (and "Anthony Johnson's" ) zero.

    Would you then agree you're an idiot for comparing Kidd's defense to Anthony Johnson?

    And no, it was the 2001 season he finished second in MVP voting to Tim Duncan. His numbers were at least as impressive as Nash's first MVP (Kidd: 14.7/9.9/7.3/2.1) and did them under similar cir stances (both were part of a complete team turnaround).

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    I never compared his defense to Anthony Johnson's. That one flew over your head. You need to stop googling all of your opinions. I said Anthony Johnson because he torched Kidd in the playoffs. Kidd had no answers for him. He was abusing him time and time again. Not to mention to rest of the elite point guards that tear this guy apart.

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    I never compared his defense to Anthony Johnson's. That one flew over your head. You need to stop googling all of your opinions. I said Anthony Johnson because he torched Kidd in the playoffs. Kidd had no answers for him. He was abusing him time and time again. Not to mention to rest of the elite point guards that tear this guy apart.


    Considering you didn't even bother responding to my post, let's just leave it at that.

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    And no, his numbers weren't as impressive as Nash's, because he did it in the lEastern conference.

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    And no, his numbers weren't as impressive as Nash's, because he did it in the lEastern conference.
    you're an idiot

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