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Spurs kill USA team.
Duncan would own everything
LOL
Puerto Rico can beat the Spurs...LOL
Spurs kill USA team.
Duncan would own everything
it was a metaphor
OMG? There are other teams out there that have talent. When the Spurs knocked off the 3-peat Lakers, on paper the Lakers had more talent. AND WHO WON THAT?Eventually wear us out with their talent?
It's not about talent all the time, it's about maximizing effort with cohesion so that way, everyone from top-to-bottom is on the same page. The USA will NEVER get that cohesion in a summer camp nor while playing the FIBA Americas. They could still win the GOLD but it won't be easy. America is no longer the dominant team in world hoops, what they are is the most talented but again, not the most dominant.
Mavs got Spurs number so what is all this talk about beating America's best in Team USA?
God, whatever. I never realized how blind-homers truly believe the bull their sold.
IF the Spurs would/could handle the US team, then there is no reason that this incarnation of the Spurs shouldnt be kicking the out of every NBA team year in and year out. IF they are better than the US team, then this starting 5 would never lose a playoff series against inferior opponents.
While 3 les in 5 years is awesome, it isnt perfect. US would rout any NBA team in a 7 game series. I would go so far as to say they would route any team in the world in a 7 game series.
Olympics are fickle. Its one and done once you move to the later rounds. Both teams become very familiar with each other in a 7 gamer. Weaknesses get exposed.
Utah and everyone else got Rockets number so what?
Apparently people still can't tell the difference between FIBA Rules and NBA Rules. I say again, Cohesion is important here. The Spurs armed with Tim Duncan, 2 world class players and stud role players will overtake an ALL-STAR team only because those all-stars will never understand their roles to the level that the Spurs do.
And to think I have to explain this to someone who calls himself a Piston fan, a team that has won in the past not on the basis of their talent alone but on the trust forged by them working together.
That can't be accomplished in the short time frame given by USA Basketball gives them.
It used to be that that didn't matter, that you could just roll out a ball and watch the US run everyone, but seriously when was the last time the US won anything in the senior level of FIBA hoops on the WORLD level?
The Spurs aren't a FIBA team.
But the opp is Team USA and as such...THEY WOULD HAVE TO PLAY FIBA RULES. EVERY TIME!!!! But you should know that Mavs Fan or do I give you too much credit?
Dude, the Spurs can't touch team USA, especially not in a 7 game series
Give it up
If it's Team USA, there is no such thing as a 7 game series. Team USA must play FIBA rules, since FIBA dictates International Basketball Medal Play. If the Spurs played Team USA, all that talent don't mean if they can't play together.
Can you think of the last time a team of ALL-Stars won a le?
Try NEVER. Philly had a team full of all stars against the Walton-led Blazers, got beat. 04 Lakers had 4 All-stars against the Pistons, got beat. When was the last time that Team USA won a le on the World Stage? 2000 OLYs in Australlia. Since then...no golds. Zip, nada...nothing. So why don't you explain again how this group is going to win when those others haven't since 2000?
This isn't the same USA team that hasn't won anything since 2000
The Spurs are an NBA team, not a FIBA team, and wouldn't be any more used to FIBA rules than Team USA.
Now you can keep thinking the Spurs are the greatest team in sports history and Duncan>Jordan but i'm going to keep it realistic
You've been exposed as someone who doesn't know about the Spurs.
1) Gregg Popovich was a finalist to be the US Coach and has been on many a staff for TEAM USAThe Spurs are an NBA team, not a FIBA team, and wouldn't be any more used to FIBA rules than Team USA.
2) Ginobili and Parker are principal players for the their respective countries. Add Oberto for Argentina as well. Udrih for Slovenia. Newcomer Ime Udoka plays for Nigeria, Mahinmi too plays for France, both Finley and Bowen have played for the US as well as 1 Tim Duncan. That makes 8 players with loads of FIBA experience. Since Manu, Tony, Fab, and Tim(when he was last part of Team USA) make FIBA All-Tourney teams, you can bet that it's because they understand that game well.
Knowing that there is a different set of rules and style of play makes the Spurs a perfect foil to TEAM USA who DOES NOT YET have that perfect understanding.
I'll give you Tony and Manu, but there are several flaws to your argument.
I don't recall Finley or Bowen playing for the US but if they did it was years back
Udoka and Mahinmi have yet to even play for the Spurs, so I wouldn't count my chickens before they hatch
Tim never really adapted to the international game
That said, Team USA has been playing together now for 2 summers and as a team has much more FIBA experience than the Spurs roster would. If the Spurs could beat team USA then surely they could beat any regular NBA team and would have 10 championships straight by now, but that's just not so. Now you can live in fairy tale land and think the Spurs can smash a team full of the greatest players in the world but like I said i'm going to keep it realistic.
Do you recall Bowen playing in France for a few seasons?
That could count as FIBA experience wouldn't it?
Sure. But Bowen playing in France for a while years back isn't going to change the outcome of a game.
Wasn't just "a while" it was more than that and the argument was familiarity with the FIBA rules/style of play. There's a lot of that on this Spurs team.
So you honestly think that just because roughly over half the Spurs roster has some sort of international basketball experience, they would be able to beat Team USA?
I never said that.
MIB named Spurs' FIBA experience as one of the reason for his conviction, you argued against it and you are wrong.
You can debate how much of an impact it would have but you can not argue against the fact it is there, so MIB's assesment that you don't know much about the Spurs stands.
So you're saying that the Spurs AS A TEAM have more FIBA experience than Team USA who has been playing together in international compe ion for the past 2 years? When was the last time the San Antonio Spurs played in an international event?
What I said stands, from a TEAM perspective the Spurs wouldn't have any kind of advantage over Team USA considering only Team USA has played together in international compe ion.
I never argued with MIB that certain Spur players don't have international experience, I said that it wouldn't be enough to be considered an advantage since Team USA has more experience in international basketball as a whole.
I agree.
Team ball beats great talent.
Especially when the team that plays team ball has very good talent and Tim Duncan.
If you don't believe me, ask Bill Russell, Bob Cousy, John Havlicek, or Sam Jones.
I'm not going to say that the Spurs is better than the USA team, but I think that the Spurs could beat the USA team in a game. I don't know who would win a best of 7 but I'm sure it wouldn't be easy for the USA team to beat the spurs.
Some of the reasons that makes me believe in that:
1- Spurs have some great players with international basketball experience.
2- Spurs have great team chemistry and they do have a lot of talent on their main players.
3- USA team have many talented players but Spurs players know their role on the team.
4- style of play: Spurs plays great defense, if they can slow down the game and make team USA play on the way Spurs likes, then that would help the Spurs a lot.
Told ya...exposed. What are we going to say if the US loses again to the likes of ARG or ESP or LIT or GRE or anyone else in the OLY field? Not saying it's going to happen but because those countries have forged together a system and players who have MUCH MORE EXPERIENCE THAN 2 summers playing FIBA rules, them beating the superior talent that is the US shouldn't come as a surprise if it happens YET AGAIN.So you honestly think that just because roughly over half the Spurs roster has some sort of international basketball experience, they would be able to beat Team USA?
And it's not about being the best team and winning 10 les in a row, the question was asked could the Spurs beat this current version of TEAM USA and the answer is still yes they could.
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