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    Greece only win by 3. They will be at best 3rd in their group.
    It means that the 1st or 2nd team will have to play against Greece.
    The way they play, that's still better than playing versus Russia or Spain.

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    The way they play, that's still better than playing versus Russia or Spain.
    I rather see France playing against Russia or Croatia than Greece.
    Maybe Greece aren't playing well for the moment but they are French NT nightmare for years.

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    Spanoulis hits 3 pointer at buzzer for win for Greece.


    Greece team has purposely position itself to play France because they have owned France for so long.

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    Spanoulis buzzer beater. He drive full court two crossovers, ankle breaker then pullup 26 footer for win. Spurs needs to bring him back.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LZtf_lr_es

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    Greece team has purposely position itself to play France because they have owned France for so long.

    They aren't really in position to play France.

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    It wasn`t exactly an ankle breaker. Planinic (I think) slipped. But great shot!

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    It wasn`t exactly an ankle breaker. Planinic (I think) slipped. But great shot!
    So you make defender fall down when you change dribble it's not ankle breaker?

    Please explain, in Greece this considered ankle breaker.

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    They aren't really in position to play France.
    You think Lithunania beat France even with Sabas hurts?

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    You think Lithunania beat France even with Sabas hurts?
    Even if France beat Lithuania tomorrow, it doesn't mean that they will play Greece.
    Teams in the group F have still 2 games to play, it's too soon to calculate who will play against who.

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    with 1.42 remaining Spain 78 - 67 Russia

    Edit : end of game, Spain by 12

    So you make defender fall down when you change dribble it's not ankle breaker?

    Please explain, in Greece this considered ankle breaker.
    That the point, you need to make it, here it seems more that the defender slipped when he wanted to stop running.
    But indeed, the shoot is awsome

    You think Lithunania beat France even with Sabas hurts?
    France is an inconsistant team and have off nights in every tournament these last year... 2005 is a good example :
    a mediocre 1st round 2L (Greece, Slovenia) 1W (Bosnia)
    Then they defeat the world champion playing with homecourt advantage : Serbia.
    Easy winn against Lithuania in quarterfinals
    In Semi thay have lost by one against Greece because they couldn't hit a FT in the final minutes
    In the game for the bronze, they destroyed Spain by 30...

    Talented, but inconsistant team.
    Last edited by Freeze; 09-09-2007 at 04:31 PM.

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    Even if France beat Lithuania tomorrow, it doesn't mean that they will play Greece.
    Teams in the group F have still 2 games to play, it's too soon to calculate who will play against who.

    But you don't think most likely it will beat Greece vs. France?

    Personal I hope very much see Parker go against Papaloukas, Diamantidis, and Spanoulis.

    You do not think this be amazing match up to see?

    Maybe too after game Parker can ask Spanoulis to come back again after this year.

    I relly believe Spurs have greatest guard rotation in world if they have Parker/Manu then Kill Bill backs them up.

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    So you make defender fall down when you change dribble it's not ankle breaker?

    Please explain, in Greece this considered ankle breaker.
    It just looked like Planinic slipped to me. Maybe it was because of the crossover, or maybe the floor was wet. In any case it doesn`t matter.

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    Maybe too after game Parker can ask Spanoulis to come back again after this year.

    I relly believe Spurs have greatest guard rotation in world if they have Parker/Manu then Kill Bill backs them up.
    Spurs will never pay a 5M$ buyout for any player. And you would like them to do it for a backup ?!?

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    Spurs will never pay a 5M$ buyout for any player. And you would like them to do it for a backup ?!?
    Have you watch tournament?

    Even some of my American friends admit so far he has better defense than any NBA player way he plays.

    Steve Nash can be shut down by Spanoulis.

    You see Diamantidis defense?

    I huge fan of Bruce Bowen, but compares with Diamantidis he poor defender.

    Spurs never have to worry about Nash again they have defender like Spanoulis or Diamantidis for him.

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    Are you on crack, kill bill pana?

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    Spurs will never pay a 5M$ buyout for any player. And you would like them to do it for a backup ?!?

    Also he has $4.85 million buyout but he also has player option. So it depend on how much Spurs offers.

    See what I mean?

    Spurs offers $4.85 million for 2 years same he get for last two years from Panathinaikos) and he opt out after one year and join Spurs.

    So it based on what Spurs willing to pay. Billy say he never again take less money to play in NBA after dealing with Van Gundy. He also tells me though Lindsey and Buford tells him money and spaces on Spurs open after next year.

    So it up to Spurs, Billy can opt out after this year but he not coming for less than $4.85 million for over 2 years .

    Sp Spurs could offer him 2 year deal at $2.425 million per year and he could opt out and join.

    Billy cannot join Spurs again for 3 years if he not opt out BEFORE option clause because buyout equal $4.85 million.

    Understands?

    So Billy realisitic he stay for 3 years unless Spurs offers his contract BEFORE player clause come up with Greens which be next August.

    Billy realize no way Spurs pay that buyout, but also Spurs does tell him based on what happen next year IF they still wants him they offer him money BEFORE player clause opt out with Greens expire.

    So what I say is, IF Parker force issue Billy be Spur NEXT YEAR.

    If not Billy probably just stay in Athens.

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    I huge fan of Bruce Bowen, but compares with Diamantidis he poor defender.



    Have you watch tournament?

    Even some of my American friends admit so far he has better defense than any NBA player way he plays.

    Steve Nash can be shut down by Spanoulis.

    You see Diamantidis defense?

    I huge fan of Bruce Bowen, but compares with Diamantidis he poor defender.

    Spurs never have to worry about Nash again they have defender like Spanoulis or Diamantidis for him.
    That's not the point, Spurs Organisation won't pay a 5M $ buyout, ask your American friends, and look at Scola's example.

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    Are you on crack, kill bill pana?
    You even know Diamantidis?

    He BETTER defender than Bruce Bowen.

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    You even know Diamantidis?

    He BETTER defender than Bruce Bowen.
    I see. You are on crack. I am Slovene, so I watch him every year. He is really good defender, BUT, please donīt compare him with Bruce.

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    Who would have guessed when the tournament started that I could write the following words--

    the only 2 undefeated teams left are Slovenia and Lithuania!

    I don't know why people ae not paying more attention to Lithuania. Everyone is focused on Spain, Greece, Russia, France...

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    Who would have guessed when the tournament started that I could write the following words--

    the only 2 undefeated teams left are Slovenia and Lithuania!

    I don't know why people ae not paying more attention to Lithuania. Everyone is focused on Spain, Greece, Russia, France...

    I think Lithuania VERY good, but with Sabas hurt they not beat Greece or France coming up I think.

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    I see. You are on crack. I am Slovene, so I watch him every year. He is really good defender, BUT, please donīt compare him with Bruce.
    I think Diamantidis have like 7 feet wingspan and much quicker than Bowen.

    You realize he have freakish wingspan right?

    He have as good as Bowen but more physical tools than Bowens. He just swarm over offense players like Spider as they say in Greece.

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    I think Lithuania VERY good, but with Sabas hurt they not beat Greece or France coming up I think.
    Sorry Billy, but the golden days of your Greece are over. Your team sucks this year. They beat poor and depleted Serbia in OT, depleted Croatia with buzzer-beater, lost to Russia and has been demolished by Spain. Your only good win is against "mighty" Israel. So donīt dream about beating Spain, Lithuania, Russia etc at all. And pass that what you are smoking.

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    Sorry Billy, but the golden days of your Greece are over. Your team sucks this year. They beat poor and depleted Serbia in OT, depleted Croatia with buzzer-beater, lost to Russia and has been demolished by Spain. Your only good win is against "mighty" Israel. So donīt dream about beating Spain, Lithuania, Russia etc at all. And pass that what you are smoking.

    Well our best 2 big players not playing. Starting PF Fotsis (team's 2nd lead scorer after Spanoulis and best 3 point shooter) and Sofo starting C and best post scorer both out.

    So I think Greece proves so far how good they are to win without starting PF and starting C and two best big players and two best big player scorers.

    But even with this problem we surely can beat Russia. We surely can beat Croatia again. We sure can beat Lithuania, Germany, even France and yes we can beat Slovenia or any others except Spain.

    Spain main problem we have because we not have Fotsis he about 6-11 240 and we not have Sofoklis he about 6-9 340 when he play but he get too 400 pounds and he not play now.

    I think I have good kg to pounds there. Fotsis gain weight from NBA days like 10 kilo probably.

    Even without 2 starters Greece 2nd best team in tournament.

    So we maybe not beat Spain because starting PF and C not playing, but I still not count team out though. Spain bad match up but some team could beat Spain maybe, depend on how match up goes.

    Greece much better team than before. People not realize players like Fotsis, Diamantidis, Sofo, and especially Spanoulis getting better.

    Spanoulis already best Greek player ever and he just turn 25, he just look better every tournament, every year even though he not play a whole year he still get better.

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