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Ah yes, remove the Cons ution when it's inconvenient. Sounds familiar.
Must I repeat my self asshole:
That's all I'll say about that topic on this thread. Want a cons utional discussion, start a new thread.
Ah yes, remove the Cons ution when it's inconvenient. Sounds familiar.
When they passed the "Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq," in 2002.
But, I believe many cons utional experts will concede a state of war had continued to exist with Iraq since the end of the first Gulf War when Saddam Hussein surrendered, signed a cease-fire agreement and proceeded to then violate every single thing to which he had just agreed.
Tell you what, you find for me, in the cons ution where a declaration of war has to contain the words "declaration" or "war." Declaring a war is an act of -- and under the purview of -- Congress and if they pass legislation that accomplishes the feat, such as the AUMF in Iraq, then that's a declaration of war.
It's called saving our country. And we got it right. It is
you and others like you who have it wrong.
we have to destroy our country to save Iraq?
why do you hate america, ray?
I'm still trying to figure out how we are fighting for our freedom in Iraq.
Next time you want to use the NYT in something to back up your
claim, you might want to consider their impartiality. Seems they
like to help their friends out in substantial ways, money wise.
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MoveOn.org Gets Discount Rate for ‘Betray Us’ Advocacy Ad
By Terry Trippany
Created 2007-09-11 09:12
Jake Tapper at ABC News reported that MoveOn.org paid $65,000 for its full page anti-war advocacy sliming of General David Petraeus [1]. This figure raised the su ions of attentive blogger Confederate Yankee [2] whose intuition appears to be correct. (h/t Mic e Malkin [3]) While looking up the current New York Times rate book [4] he discovered that MoveOn.org received a $102,000 discount on the standard political advocacy rate that is advertised at $167,157.
For a newspaper that pretends to be objective purveyors of news this discount seems a bit steep for the deep pocketed liberal advocacy group. In fact the amount MoveOn paid is less than any rate listed in the New York Times schedule.
There’s not much to say about the character of the New York Times that hasn’t been said already. For a paper that has been paying its investors back with lead weighted returns I’d be a little irritated if I had a stake in a venture that puts the subjective political agenda of the editorial staff above the fiduciary duty of the corporation to its investors. Especially considering that MoveOn.org could easily afford the going rate and likely would have run the ad without such a lavish discount. But then again advocacy as a business plan is exactly what the newspaper is about.
When trying to explain [5] how the New York Times Co. managed to shave 50% off the bottom line between 2002 and 2006 some analysts felt that editorial content was not the problem. They looked at other indicators such as poor cost control.
They were wrong in my eyes. The arrogance of the people running the New York Times Co. is a reflection of the paper and its approach to journalism. I’d consider this an example of how editorial persuasion reflects much of the back room operations at the newspaper if not the company as a whole.
Yesterday the New York Times Co. reached a simultaneous low while its crown jewel newspaper reached a new low by running a personal attack ad against a war hero. Their stock reflected their standing in the world of character by ending the day with a five year low of $20.72 [6]. What a perfectly deserving reflection of the quality of the product coming out of the nation’s biggest clearing house for advocacy journalism.
Terry Trippany is the editor at Webloggin [7] and hopes everyone remembers those who were senselessly murdered on September 11, 2001 by visiting this link here [8].
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Because the Hussein regime had WMDs and al Qaeda was supported by said regime with training camps there. Oh, wait....
they had a coupon
Congress did not declare war. It has shirked its duty under the Cons ution. But I guess we shouldn't let the Cons ution get in the way of our freedom.
If the Authorization for Use of Military Force in Iraq isn't a declaration of war against Iraq, what is it?
I know Saddam Hussein and his patrons at the U.N. all considered it an act of war.
Was the first Gulf War also illegitimate, in your eyes?
Sure, it was an act of war, but that doesn't legitimize it per the Cons ution.
Also, since when are you for the UN taking control of US foreign and military policy?
Why not? Congress can declare war. Congress can pass legislation. Where does it say Congress can't pass legislation that, in effect, declares war?
I'm not. I'm just pointing out those, against whom we "declared" war, and his buddies at the U.N., recogized a declaration when they saw it. Why can't you?
So it passed legislation saying it was up to the President to declare war. That is shirking its duty and transferring power to the Executive.
why even argue this? you got the miserable failure you wanted.
he knows more than Paetreus?
That assessment is a little simplistic. The invasion of Iraq created enough terrorists to attack us there and here. It only took 19 of them to carry out the 9/11 attacks.
We'll have to see what impact the assassination of Abdul Sattar Rishawi has on the Sunnis that he helped to turn against Al Qaeda in Iraq.
(google image search, no idea of the sites biases)
Yep, it's called liberal bias.
Would the same size and priced ad get the same discount it it were opposite politically? I can safely say NO!
They want to see something that says:
"This is a Declaration of WAR"
Nothing else will suffice for them.
Just tune in to fox news. why waste money on print?
A declaration of war as defined by the Cons ution of the United States would be dandy.
Why can't we use that anymore?
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