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Wasn't AK-47 the poisonous snake in the utah jazz lockeroom this past year? More power to them.
Let this deal happen.
Suns are getting fvcked.
Wasn't AK-47 the poisonous snake in the utah jazz lockeroom this past year? More power to them.
Okay -- that made me LOL.
Kirilenko did have some success in the GS series as a sort of point-forward when Deron Williams went to the bench with foul trouble and the Jazz had lost the rest of their PG's. Maybe they have him pegged as sort of a more defensive minded version of Boris Diaw?
I'm still having trouble making heads or tails for why Phoenix would want to take this guy on.
Position-wise, Kirilenko would benefit from this trade.
He's most comfortable playing PF, not working on the wings as an SF. But with Boozer's play last season and Millsap coming on strong, I don't think there will be any time left for him to play his natural position.
At least in Phoenix, he gets ample time to play PF. The Suns are lacking in the power positions right now, and starting Diaw alongside Amare in the frontcourt poses some major risks defensively for them. Kirilenko+Amare at least gives them a bit of a defensive presence, although I still wonder if Amare can really cover the better post men in the league.
Utah also benefits from this trade because Marion is a better fit at SF than Kirilenko, and with Deron and Boozer, they don't need to depend on Marion to carry them offensively either.
This trade possibility might suggest that : 1. The Suns want to trade Marion 2. The Suns need a big man with some defense after losing Thomas 3. The Jazz want to trade Kirilenko because Millsap looks strong and they also have Boozer.
I hope the Suns lose Marion because I personally think he is better than some realize. He played pretty good defense on Parker after game 1. Without Marion, who will guard Tony Parker? Raja defends Manu, and Steve Nash can't defend anyone. Neither can Grant Hill. If the Suns loke Thomas and Marion, they lose the two players who could try to defend Duncan and Parker.
That's the biggest thing. AK is a better defender than Marion IMO, but he doesn't have the speed to guard a point guard, let alone Tony Parker. However, I've said it from the beginning of the offseason, the guy that Phoenix needs is Ron Artest. That would go along way in solving our problems.
I hope this happens, makes the Suns worse
Good points.
Also, I wonder if each team feels that their player will no longer be happy on their respective team. Deron and Boozer probably have little respect left for Andrei based on comments they made about players quitting. And as for the Suns, Marion has been on the block so long, and he seems to want to be the Man, so maybe his usefulness and willingness to contribute is not perceived to be what it once was.
I'd like to see this happen.
Kirilenko would be a horrible fit in PHO. I hope they do this.
That was my initial reaction, but I don't really want to see Utah get better either, especially considering that they have a very young core who has already made it to the conference finals.
Rockets, Warriors, WCF.
Thanks Dirk.
Aside from the fact everyone is still talking about something that was apparently dead a month ago, has anyone stopped to really look at AK47's record? Aside from being injury prone and good at blocking shots, he really isn't all that. He was twice 2nd team all defense and was 1st team in 05-06 when he got Timmy's 1st place spot. He wasn't on last year's squad.
This piggyback's on the whole notion that defenders, such as Bruce, get screwed because they don't have stats. Defenders, such as Ak and Camby, get recognition because they have a stat - blocks. Has anyone EVER thought Camby was a good defender?? I mean honestly. He has never been CLOSE to getting on a 1st or 2nd team, yet last year he leads in blocks so suddenly he is the league's best defender. Same with AK. He has long arms, and very tall, generally gaurding someone much shorter than himself - therefore he gets lots of blocks. The funny thing is he normally gets those blocks from behind because he has just got beaten off the dribble and gets the shooter by suprise as he is taking on another big down low. I'm sorry, AK is NOT a great defender. He's a good shot blocker than can't otherwise defend his way out of a wet paper bag. He gets pub becuase he gets blocks. Same with Camby. Same with Wallace (altho Camby and Wallace get considerably more defensive rebounds than AK). He doesn't even have a good shot offensively, he is a trash collector.
Point to this whole thread is I would be considerably more worried about Utah next year with the playoff exp Deron got, Boozer, Okur - who is always a frickin Spur killer, and Marion with Harpring and Giricek among other scrubs? Okur won't be forced to create offense, Marion can play the 3 where he belongs, and they will have 3 no-kidding double digit scorers and 3 no-kidding double digit rebound guys.
Marion's a SF playing PF in Phoenix, Kirilenko's a PF playing SF in Utah, so i think both team take this consideration within this supposed trade talk. By doing this trade, both of them won't have to play out of position, and the inheren, undisclosed benefit might surface later on. That might be the main driving force behind this, esp. on the Phoenix side, fact that they're looking more of a loser if we go purely by number alone.
Kirlenko = dissappear in the PO's, good in the regular season.
Marion = " "
I don't see any improvement for either team.
Kirilenko just isn't a good fit for the Suns at all IMO
Marion leaving phoenix would be stupid for both parties. He's in a perfect system that hide's his flaws and allows him to do his thing, much like Nash. If he goes to any other team I can easily see his stats declining majorly, and whoever Phoenix brings in in return isn't going to put up 18 and 12.
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