Actually, the above quote is not redundant, since "sniffing a Conference le" is not tautologous with "winning a Conference le" (i.e. making the Finals).
To clarify, we would then be presented with three grades or levels of success in the Conference Finals: 1) Losing the series, meanwhile winning only 0-1 games. ("Stinking up the joint" or "Just happy to be here.") 2) Losing the series, but winning 2-3 games in the process. ("Sniffing a Conference le.") 3) Winning the series. ("Finals appearance.") I hope that helps, if just a little...
Don't count on it. I really feel sorry for da_suns_fan...The original argument was that Dirk was a better MVP than Nash, based on Dallas having more playoff success. So of course he tries to make a point based on something peripheral, and he can't even win that.
Uh oh, i know Suns fans are bitter about last playoff failure, but why they -ofcourse not ALL of them, i got a lot of respect for JMarkJohn, OldDirtMcGirt, and some others- keep on spewing a lot of dumb thoughts, crapping in this forum ?
JMJ and ODM are pretty much the only non-troll Suns fans here.
I can't believe you won't just ADMIT that you screwed up.
You actually called me out in your first post on my rant against Johnny Ringo saying that these two statements were the same thing (which is the exact thing I was saying but youre too dumb to realize):
Yet NOW you want to argue that those two statements weren't implying the same thing?
Which is it FinDog? Is Johnny Ringo saying the same thing twice or isn't he? Is SpursDynasty a lame troll or is he a cool troll? Is calling someone "gay" out of touch for 2007 or do you want to mock Kobe Bryant for giving Chris Mihm a man hug?
Which is it FinDog? Which do you actually believe?!!!
Last edited by da_suns_fan__; 09-17-2007 at 10:04 AM.
You called out Johnny Ringo for "not knowing" that getting to the Finals is the same thing as winning a conference Finals, not for being repe ive. It's there for any interested party to see, unless you want to cover up your shame and edit your post.
The first statement concerns Dirk, I guess your defensiveness over the shortcomings of your team cause you to read something into it that isn't there. The second statement concerns your precious PG. Poor da_suns_fan, can't win a basketball-related argument or an argument on semantics, either.
And now a guy that calls people a " " casually want to toss out the bigot card because I once posted a picture of Kobe giving Chris Mihm a hug without comment. Have you no shame?
Actually, it had a lot more to do with the fact that in a paragraph about how Nash sucks, I use my powers of deduction to determine that the statement "Dirk at least managed to take his team to the finals" is another chide against Steve Nash.You called out Johnny Ringo for "not knowing" that getting to the Finals is the same thing as winning a conference Finals, not for being repe ive. It's there for any interested party to see, unless you want to cover up your shame and edit your post.
The first statement concerns Dirk, I guess your defensiveness over the shortcomings of your team cause you to read something into it that isn't there. The second statement concerns your precious PG. Poor da_suns_fan, can't win a basketball-related argument or an argument on semantics, either.
And now a guy that calls people a " " casually want to toss out the bigot card because I once posted a picture of Kobe giving Chris Mihm a hug without comment. Have you no shame?
When people group sentences in a paragraph, this is usually the intent.
Why can't you JUST ADMIT that you screwed up? You're stretching and spinning things so bad you don't even know what youre arguing anymore!
Game over. I win.
Last edited by da_suns_fan__; 09-17-2007 at 10:36 AM.
da_suns_fan please just shut up and stop owning yourself. i've never seen someone so eager to tell everyone how big a dumbass he is.
you're much more effective obsessing over Eva and ratings, not engaging in halfway intelligent conversation.
Check out this thread...I mention you in one of my posts:
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...t=77651&page=2
Because I didn't.
Classic Case of Projection.You're stretching and spinning things so bad you don't even know what youre arguing anymore!
Fixed.Game over. I will declare victory and slink off like a because I'm tired of getting owned.
i'll check it out when i have some free time.
That half belongs to me.
I think that AK's at ude is slightly better than Marions, but yeah they both are mental midgets. Hence why we need somebody like Ron Ron or Sheed.
Ron Artest would really be the perfect fit for the Suns. I think that the management is becoming content with winning sixty plus games, racking up a ton of offensive numbers, and bowing out early in the playoffs. Ron is the best man defender in the league, and could still play with Tony Parker. I think that if he was on a contender like Phoenix with a leader like Steve Nash who can keep him in check, he could easily replace Marion's production and gives us some much needed toughness.
I really doubt that Da-Suns-Fan and Shred are true Suns fans who bleed Purple and Orange. Probably just some dumbass trolls who hop on the bandwagon and think that they can get a rise out of some guys by posting a bunch of ignorant .
Interesting idea, and should that scenario happen, that would be a big talent upgrade for the Suns.
The problem I see here is that I think Artest's personality begs for another alpha-dog type to keep him in check; he needs a superstar on the team who can get in his face and make him back down. Otherwise, his mentality ends up infecting the team later on.
The ideal scenario for him would be similar to Jordan and Rodman on the Bulls before - nobody could dispute that it was Jordan's team, and Rodman also had Phil Jackson to get in his head and keep it relatively screwed on.
While I don't doubt Nash's leadership skills on the court, does he have the type of personality to make Artest accept that the Suns are Nash's team, and not Artest's? Phoenix already has a bit of a pissing contest between Amare and Marion as it is. Wouldn't adding Artest, even if you subtract Marion from the equation, just cause a similar, if not worse, problem?
Hey, appease the A-Holes at Spurstalk if that makes you happy, but don't assume you know anything about my love of the Suns.
STFU. I dominate the non-troll Suns fans, dog.
stick to what you know, Ron, like pus-ridden s and pit bulls with their ears torn off.
and sweet lady ganja
I left out Nashfan and Ron Mexico hasn't posted much over the summer, but other than that, the Suns fans here are trolls.
Couldnt resist...
I've been trying to keep a low profile... literally, because a Federal investigation was on-going.
I think that Nash has that alpha-dog status. While Amare and Marion might be having that pissing match, it doesn't seem like anybody on the team every questions Nash's heart and leadership (while Nash goes after Marion and Amare occasionally). At least that's what I got from following the team.
I don't think that Ron would have a big problem fitting in here. He could be at the point in his career where (at least for a year) he could be held in check by the prospect of winning a championship and playing with a very good team where he'll get alot of recognition (they guy who got us over the hump, etc.). Look at how much Steven Jackson helped out Golden State this year. Hopefully it would have the same effect. It's a gamble for sure, but sitting here with our thumbs up our asses really isn't helping much either.
Interesting that you brought up Phil Jackson. If Mike D'Antoni would spend half the time he spends pouting and stomping his feet like an 11 year old girl on legitimate defensive rotations, we'd go 82-0.
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