Tender offer is non-guaranteed one year
Commitment deal is two-year partial guarantee
Something to that effect?
Either way, the difference is what? He's still going to spend the majority of his time in Austin this year anyways, whether it's taking up the 15th spot or not.
They gave James White a full year without even having him in their camp. They didn't even make the initial investment.
What makes you think they dump Williams after 10 games in the summer league?
And if they do...so what?
Again, we're talking 15th roster spot.
Personally, I think they keep him because of the investment they already made. But time will tell.....
They had to attract White while they have the rights to William.
If they think there is a good chance he sucks I hope it was a tender offer and they can pick up a hot prospect laterif he continues to suck. Most of the guys that were second rounders and look promising get committmetns to lock them up and that wasn't Williams
Exactly. Plus, I believe that White had a pretty promising Summer League performance with Indiana (at least on Marcus Williams standards) and they had absolutely no new leads at the time to inject new blood into the wing (which is not the case this season considering the Udoka signing).
You have some serious reading comprehension troubles in this thread.
When I say Spurs are lame, it has nothing to do with Spurs wanting or not to send Williams in Europe.
I've said that Spurs would be lame if they do what exstatic suggested in a post. http://spurstalk.com/forums/showpost...4&postcount=32
I don't know why the terms of the contract are such a big deal. The Spurs signed him and can cut him whenever they want to. If someone that much better comes along, they will. At the very most, it's a one-year minimum salary.
The Spurs do regularly pinch their pennies as much as possible; I am not sure they would be willing to dump a guaranteed contract for a better-seeming prospect even if one came along. I would expect the decision to be much easier for them if William's contract was not guaranteed.
In other news, http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...y-Bullets.html, "The Clippers gave up on Jared Jordan, trading him to the Knicks for cash. The Knicks now have 19 real deal players counting Jordan, and only 15 roster spots, so I'd say he's facing a stiff challenge in New York, too. There are a bunch of teams that will be making painful cuts in the weeks to come. (Detroit, for instance.) Teams with open roster spots are waiting ...".
In particular, I expect the Knicks to be forced to cut Demetris Nichols (#53, 2007). Judging on summer league, Nichols would be a huge improvement over Williams. He would be a good fit with us, a SF, shooter, and a willing defender.
http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2184
Nichols has been impressive all week, and has definitely earned a spot somewhere in the NBA.
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No one thought they would keep White all season either. If it's just a few hundred thousand, they haven't really seemed to sweat it these past couple of seasons.
The Spurs had a chance to draft Nichols...and they didn't. They had a chance to draft McGuire....and they didn't. They had a chance to draft Byars...and they didn't.
They didn't, because they obviously saw something they liked in Williams. That's the reason they gave him a contract and brought him to training camp.
Like it or not, the Spurs seem pretty interested in following through with their investment in Williams. I wouldn't count on any other player, be they a training camp invite or a castoff from another team, occupying the 15th spot.
And that ain't necessarily bad....
Look, for as bad as Williams looked offensively during the SL and for as horrible as his shot mechanics may be, this guy managed to be an extremely effective scorer at the college level.
But, I can guarantee that's not why the Spurs drafted him and certainly not why he now has a contract. He got that contract because of the defensive ability he showed in college and at the SL. Say what you want about his offense, but he was flat-out disruptive with his length on defense....blocking shots and getting into the passing lanes.
I, for one, am glad that the Spurs made this investment...
'Looks like Marcus will be wearing the James White! #33 Spurs jersey.
Classic.
What is classic is that you can't even make the difference between "wanting to send Williams in Europe" and "blaming Williams for not wanting to go in Europe".
PS : I can too use the lmao smiley.
Williams has to fight for that spot as he did not receive a guaranteed contract.
Other players will be released around the league in October remember.
Do not think for one minute that it will be handed to him.
totally agree!
I was a big fan of the idea of getting him in the draft and was very surprised that he dropped that far.
Nichols has really shown many of the qualities Spurs are usually looking for. he has nice length and a great 7' wingspan. lateral footspeed is also very good, he could become a more than decent defender.
additional quality is his good rebounding, something none of the Spurs wings is above average. Nichols had almost 6 RPG, but what most overlook is, that he was playing alongside 2 real bigs (Watkins and Roberts) AND alongside leaping wonder Paul Harris, likely the best rebounding guard in college (7 RPG in some 20 MPG, Harris has reportedly a 44" vertical leap)
so, if the Knicks cut Nichols, I hope Spurs don't hesitate to cut Williams or Beno to open a roster spot for him and add him. he will be a steal IMO.
Word is that a lot of teams will be cutting players who are NBA talent. For some reason there is an abundance of players. Does anyone understand why this is so? Spurs might be able to pick up a much better prospect than Marcus.
Word is that a lot of teams will be cutting players who are NBA talent. For some reason there is an abundance of players. Does anyone understand why this is so? Spurs might be able to pick up a much better prospect than Marcus.
How many ing times do I have to explain it....
The Spurs had a shot at damn near everyone in the second round of this draft because they had the third pick. They chose Marcus Williams. That means, they've made a significant investment in Marcus Williams.
That means, unless someone grossly outplays him in training camp, Marcus Williams will be the guy on the Spurs roster.
Spurs will not go after any other ing second round pick!
I would really like the D-League to succeed on a level that minor league baseball enjoys.
I know a lot of people like college hoops but the NCAA signing 100 million dollar TV contracts and paying the players under $40k a year just pisses me off.
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