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You are the most annoying poster on here. Face it the Suns have NONE...ZERO chance of coming out the West....stop kidding with yourself. Playing run and jack up 3's might win a bunch of games but wont allow you to get to the Finals let alone win a ring. Have a good day now bag
Hahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha.
Victory is so sweet!
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Its a hoot everytime I point out when you make a mistake.
I just imagine you slapping yourself in the face!
SLOW DOWN!!!
Take the time to read posts before you respond and this will stop happening.
Suns beat a ty team. Mavs lost to a decent team. Both teams came up far short of a championship. I don't get all of the bragging about what a great season the Suns had. If you're satisfied with "fighting the good fight," so be it.The Suns beat the Lakers. The Mavs LOST to the warriors.
Probably, but it's far from certain.The Suns would have beaten the Warriors too.
My point is that both teams are quite talented, will win a lot of regular season games and have their own flaws and issues to deal with when it comes to playoff success. For Dallas, it's mental toughness and a lack of post scoring. For Phoenix, it's a lack of defense and lack of maturity. To brag about going one round further in the playoffs when you didn't have to beat a quality opponent is just asinine.Whats your point?
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I don't know how many times I can say it.
"Uh, so like, we didn't defend the Spurs too good, and they pounded our small lineup, so let's just go even smaller and hope for the best."
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Take the time to plan out a coherent and logical response and maybe you won't be seen as a laughingstock at worst and an unimaginative, repe ive troll at best.
We should thank our lucky stars that they're saving basketball.
The Suns didn't come up FAR short of a championship. They took the eventual champs farther than anyone else, didn't they?
What does it matter if the Warriors were better than the Lakers. The Mavs still should have beaten them!! The Warriors weren't that good. All they could manage was one win against the Jazz.
And, again, the Suns would have DESTROYED the Warriors just like they destroyed the Lakers.
Findog, I don't know how many times I have to tell you - The Suns plan is the same as always. We're going to get our asses handed to us by a superior team who plays defense, then and whine incessantly about injuries and/or suspensions. Then in desperation grasp at the only thing available for a Suns fan to brag about - TV ratings.
They went out in the second round...there's four rounds, you know. The Suns didn't come anywhere near a le.The Suns didn't come up FAR short of a championship.
Well, if you're happy with getting eliminated in six games, so be it. Couldn't even take it the distance.They took the eventual champs farther than anyone else, didn't they? WE LOST THE BEST
Do they go 42-40 with Jax and Harrington there all year? With Baron and Richardson not missing 50 combined games to injury?The Warriors weren't that good.
Well, since it's kosher to point out how compe ive a team can be in a loss, the one blowout in the series belonged to Golden State, and the other four went down to the wire. If I'm playing the Warriors, I'd rather have Carlos Boozer than Dirk Nowitzki. If I'm playing the Spurs, I'd rather have Dirk Nowitzki than Carlos Boozer. It's pretty much 90% matchups and 10% intangibles.All they could manage was one win against the Jazz.
I don't know about "destroyed," considering the Warriors beat the Suns after they got healthy and D'Antoni said he didn't want to play them in the playoffs. Probably a victory, but that Golden State team isn't getting the respect it deserved.And, again, the Suns would have DESTROYED the Warriors just like they destroyed the Lakers
Either way, keep bragging about regular season wins, white guys winning MVP trophies and good ratings. That seems to be your only criteria for success.
You're finally talking some sense, "da suns fan." Good for you.
I'm waiting for your alter ego to post some nonsense about not being able to distinguish post counts.
I could go on about this forever...
I can't believe FinDog is trying to save face when the Mavs lost to a ty team.
"The ty team we lost to is slightly better that the ty team you beat. We're the same!"
We lost to the champions in the second round and made a really good run at them. Might have won had it not been for some outside interference.
You lost to a ty team in the first round.
We're not the same.
Look at you!You're finally talking some sense, "da suns fan." Good for you.
I'm waiting for your alter ego to post some nonsense about not being able to distinguish post counts.
I kicked your ass today, pal!
friend, we just need to cut our losses and leave with our tail between our legs.Look at you!
I kicked your ass today, pal!
we got owned, plain and simple. your desperation smack smells of.....desperation. pathetic desperation at that. I don't need you sullying my good "da suns fan" name with this garbage.
I'm sure you could, since you're on your mommy's dialup connection. I have better things to do after 3:30 when the work week ends.I could go on about this forever...
We beat them when we had our shot. We've made a Finals. Two things Phoenix hasn't done and can't do. Dallas is closer to a le than Phoenix. QED.We lost to the champions in the second round and made a really good run at them.
Or if you had a coach that trusted his bench, or a PG that doesn't need to be hidden on defense and forces your best defender to guard Tony Parker, or if you could contain Tim Duncan, or if your best post player wasn't immature and incapable of self-discipline, or if you could play good team defense, or if...list goes on.Might have won had it not been for some outside interference.
Same result: Not even close to a le in 2007.We're not the same
Not the same: Dallas is closer to a le and can play defense and hang with San Antonio.
You're very welcome.Look at me!
You kicked my ass today, pal!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rRg3HgV65ic
Check out the sweet play at the :50 mark.
For the record, the Warriors were not a ty team at the end of last season. They essentially had all of the best players from two previously average/mediocre teams (except the Pacers kept Jermaine O'Neal). That makes you pretty damn good, even in the West.
I find it particularly ironic that dumb suns fan thinks that the Suns would have destroyed Golden State based on the outcome of the Utah series. Another run 'n' gun team was eliminated by a more traditional, defense-oriented team. In my mind, this illustrates the problems with Nelly-ball, not the weakness of the Warriors.
Interestingly, the Warriors actually had the personnel to field a more traditional team after the Pacers trade. It would have been a blast to see them try that over a full season (this year), but it ain't happening with Nelson.
I don't mean to be so hard on you....but you BEG for it.
I've basically become your reason for being on this board. You follow me from thread to thread starting arguments that you can't win.
That's right, I signed up eons before you and never comment on anything that isn't Suns-related.I've basically become your reason for being on this board.
Or, I like to shoot fish in a barrel, and you make me look good.You follow me from thread to thread
The denigration of Golden State is more about trying to magnify the failure of Dallas to get out of the first round after such a great regular season than it is about downplaying what Golden State was. Injuries and a mid-season trade means they weren't your typical .500 eighth-seed. Dallas' offensive and defensive efficiency ratings were pretty much the same as the previous two years when they won 58 and 60 games, respectively. They were going full speed night in and night out in fifth gear while a good 1/3 of the league was tanking for draft position.
It was surely an upset for Dallas to lose, and it will go down as the greatest in NBA history because of the regular season W-L records involved, but it was a mild upset, not a major one. Golden State had the better backcourt, Davis and Richardson >> Terry and Harris. 90% of the time, the team with the better backcourt wins. Throw in that GS's coach was uniquely suited to take it to Dallas because of his insider's knowledge of the tendencies and weaknesses of Dallas' players, and it's much more understandable.
67-win teams don't lose to .500 8-seeds. A little context goes a long way. It was still a disappoint and a failure, but it's been blown out of proportion. There seems to be two extremes, that the Mavs were the victim of X's and O's matchups on one end, and they're gutless pussy chokers on the other end of the spectrum. The truth is somewhere in between.
There shouldn't be too much pressure on Phoenix.
No one really expects them to win anything this year.... Just go out and run and shoot and play. Go easy on Grant Hill. Phoenix are going into this season as underdogs.
GS was very capable of winning that series. Golden State had a chance of stealing Game 2 at Utah, but Utah was stubborn and won the game in overtime. Had GS won Game 2, they pretty much would've won the series.
No matter how you spin it, Golden State could still only manage a single victory against the jazz. If they were so much better than their record indicated, why did they play like an eigth seed against Utah?The denigration of Golden State is more about trying to magnify the failure of Dallas to get out of the first round after such a great regular season than it is about downplaying what Golden State was. Injuries and a mid-season trade means they weren't your typical .500 eighth-seed.
If this was not a major upset, what is? What EXTRAORDINARY cir stances would FinDog consider an upset to be "major".It was surely an upset for Dallas to lose, and it will go down as the greatest in NBA history because of the regular season W-L records involved, but it was a mild upset, not a major one.
The only other series that could compare would be Seattle/Denver.
1) Dallas had a better record that Seattle
2) Dallas lost in a seven game series rather than a five
3) No one on Seattle was accused of "laying an egg" the way Dirk did
Except in Dallas!!67-win teams don't lose to .500 8-seeds.
That might be true.....if the Mavs didn't choke in 2006 as well.There seems to be two extremes, that the Mavs were the victim of X's and O's matchups on one end, and they're gutless pussy chokers on the other end of the spectrum. The truth is somewhere in between.
But they did.
Im sure there will be some other team next year that will just match up better "Xs and Os wise" and FinDog will have a litany of excuses as to why the Mavs lost to them as well.
It was a compe ive series. Utah's wins all came down to the wire. Golden State won in a blowout.No matter how you spin it, Golden State could still only manage a single victory against the jazz.
Because Utah had Carlos Boozer, a traditional post player and Dallas didn't.If they were so much better than their record indicated, why did they play like an eigth seed against Utah?
Appalachian State over Michigan. Stanford over USC.If this was not a major upset, what is?
If we're talking basketball, Denver over Seattle.
The league was stronger back then.Dallas had a better record that Seattle
07 Warriors > 93 Nuggets.Dallas lost in a seven game series rather than a five
Ask Seattle fans about the performances of Kemp, Payton, Perkins, Schrempf, etc. Of course, since you're only about 14 years old, you wouldn't know.No one on Seattle was accused of "laying an egg" the way Dirk did
Phoenix can't even get that far in the playoffs, or beat anybody outside of the mediocre LA teams. What we know about Dallas is that they can beat the elite championship teams and are capable of greatness. You can't say the same of the Suns.That might be true.....if the Mavs didn't choke in 2006 as well.
And I'm sure when the Suns come up short again we'll be subjected again to the importance of tv ratings. Who cares about winning les when the Suns are saving basketball instead?Im sure there will be some other team next year that will just match up better "Xs and Os wise" and FinDog will have a litany of excuses as to why the Mavs lost to them as well
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