Rush Auctions letter from Reid

[Yonivore]

the people spoke? like the 2006 congressional elections?

Well, let's just see what they say in '08.

[ChumpDumper]

He damn sure has. And, he did so in the face of overwhelming and unprecendented Congressional meddling by Democrats. Not to mention seditious and treasonous acts by the media and leakers within the Intelligence agencies of the U.S.

By any measure -- arguments about the legitimacy of the war aside -- the war in Iraq and Afghanistan have been the most successful and humane in the history of warfare.

In other words, if you believed this war were legitimate (which I know you don't), you'd have to concede the United States military has achieved in Iraq -- at the cost of almost 4,000 lives -- what we couldn't achieve in Vietnam at a cost of 55,000 lives or Korea, another 55,000 lives, or what we, thankfully achieved, in Europe and the Pacific theaters of WWII at a cost of nearly 500,000 lives.

Collateral damage is less and civilian casualties are lower than in any other war we've fought.

The stated objective of removing the Ba'athist Regime of Saddam Hussein was achieved in about three weeks...despite the defeatist warnings that it would take 10's of thousands of body bags to ship home the dead American Troops.

The stated objective of routing al Qaeda in Iraq appears nearly complete and that appears to be bringing about a renewed sense of cooperation in Iraq which will improve security and stability in the region.

Already violent deaths are down over 85% in some of the worst areas of that country. Areas that were reporting 150 murders/violent deaths per week, just last month, are down to approximately 5 deaths per week.

, if Iraq stabilizes and starts operating from the Cons ution it has already passed, they will have gone from tyranny to democracy in a shorter amount of time than did the United States when it declared its independence from Britain in 1776. Not only they, they will have done so with a smaller per capita loss of life than did the colonies.

Afghanistan is the same...no matter what the CBC, the BBC, and NPR say.

So we actually achieved total victory four years ago, it's just that nobody noticed.

[SRJ]

smearing hush??

hush makes a living smearing people ray!

Hmmm, let's see...radio guy smearing people = US Senator smearing people.

Y'know, somehow that doesn't jibe.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, let's just see what they say in '08.

For better or worse, they'll say get out of Iraq.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Hmmm, let's see...radio guy smearing people = US Senator smearing people.

Y'know, somehow that doesn't jibe.

sorry but the guy who spews his propoganda unfettered on the Armed Forces radio network is not just an ordinary radio guy..

[Yonivore]

sorry but the guy who spews his propoganda unfettered on the Armed Forces radio network is not just an ordinary radio guy..

Who has Rush Limbaugh smeared?

Then, define smear.

[SRJ]

sorry but the guy who spews his propoganda unfettered on the Armed Forces radio network is not just an ordinary radio guy..

Well,

1) Is it your suggestion that Rush be pulled from the airwaves? If so, that's typical liberalism: tolerance for everyone...we like.

2) I still don't understand what a powerful US Senator is doing jumping into the fray with a radio guy. Even if he's such a influential broadcaster as your post says he is, the stupidest thing a Senator could do would be to respond and lend legitimacy to his bit. People like Rush hate to be ignored, and Reid obliged him.

[Yonivore]

Well,

1) Is it your suggestion that Rush be pulled from the airwaves? If so, that's typical liberalism: tolerance for everyone...we like.

2) I still don't understand what a powerful US Senator is doing jumping into the fray with a radio guy. Even if he's such a influential broadcaster as your post says he is, the stupidest thing a Senator could do would be to respond and lend legitimacy to his bit. People like Rush hate to be ignored, and Reid obliged him.

I think it's another Democrat gambit (I like that term) to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Well,

1) Is it your suggestion that Rush be pulled from the airwaves? If so, that's typical liberalism: tolerance for everyone...we like.

2) I still don't understand what a powerful US Senator is doing jumping into the fray with a radio guy. Even if he's such a influential broadcaster as your post says he is, the stupidest thing a Senator could do would be to respond and lend legitimacy to his bit. People like Rush hate to be ignored, and Reid obliged him.

well then we should allow Micheal Moore present his views to our nations poorest so they can decide on our future healthcare system. his view alone will inform them of the true nature of our broken healthcare system.

[Yonivore]

well then we should allow Micheal Moore present his views to our nations poorest so they can decide on our future healthcare system. his view alone will inform them of the true nature of our broken healthcare system.

Who's preventing Michael Moore from presenting his views to anyone?

[SRJ]

I think it's another Democrat gambit (I like that term) to bring back the Fairness Doctrine.

As a chessplayer, I too like the term Democrat gambit.

[ChumpDumper]

Is Michael Moore on Armed Forces Radio?

[George Gervin's Afro]

Who's preventing Michael Moore from presenting his views to anyone?

no one. but like hush is allowed to promote his warped view to our military without regard to it's truthfulness we should just allow demogouges to reach specific audiences via the govt.

[SRJ]

Who's preventing Michael Moore from presenting his views to anyone?

I'll field that one, Yoni.

If a liberal fails to draw the same audience as Hush or Whaanity (hey, it's kinda fun pretending to be a liberal), then obviously that liberal is getting suppressed by the VRWC. Therefore, we must apply the Fairness Doctrine.

[SRJ]

Is Michael Moore on Armed Forces Radio?

Does he have a radio show? I honestly don't know.

[xrayzebra]

smearing hush??

hush makes a living smearing people ray!

Rush makes his living by being an entertainer and gives
people information that used to be not available. He
is the other voice to the MSM.

He at least tells you what his accuracy rating is. Does
CNN/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/NYT/WashPost.

He does give his opinion. And he tells you he is a
conservative. Now does Mr. Reid, does Ms. Bill Clinton,
does Mr. Obama. The later tells you they are Democrats,
but are they. Nope. They are Socialist. Do they above
mentioned networks, newspapers tell you that what
party they are supporting. Nope, they try to tell you
they are neutral. Yeah, believe that and I have bridge
in Laredo I want to sell you.

[Yonivore]

no one. but like hush is allowed to promote his warped view to our military without regard to it's truthfulness we should just allow demogouges to reach specific audiences via the govt.

What's stopping them?

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think Rush belongs on Armed Forces Radio any more than Air America does.

[xrayzebra]

I'll field that one, Yoni.

If a liberal fails to draw the same audience as Hush or Whaanity (hey, it's kinda fun pretending to be a liberal), then obviously that liberal is getting suppressed by the VRWC. Therefore, we must apply the Fairness Doctrine.

VRWC? What is that? (Very) Right Wing Conspiracy?

[George Gervin's Afro]

I'll field that one, Yoni.

If a liberal fails to draw the same audience as Hush or Whaanity (hey, it's kinda fun pretending to be a liberal), then obviously that liberal is getting suppressed by the VRWC. Therefore, we must apply the Fairness Doctrine.

Ok I guess your going to play stupid. You and I both know that Hush's show was approved by the govt to be heard by the Armed Forces radio. You seem to be ok with a hyper partisan reaching our military with govt permission. You seem to think that's ok. I provided you with an example of another hyper partisan being allowed, via the govt, to present his views unfettered. Would that be alright? If the govt allowed Mr Moore to use his propoganda as a source of information on informaing the poor in our country on the issue of healthcare? gun control?

[xrayzebra]

I don't think Rush belongs on Armed Forces Radio any more than Air America does.

I didn't know you could think. You have never demonstrated
it on this forum.

[ChumpDumper]

Rush makes his living by being an entertainer and gives
people information that used to be not available. He
is the other voice to the MSM.

He at least tells you what his accuracy rating is. Does
CNN/NBC/CBS/MSNBC/NYT/WashPost.

Accuracy determined by whom?

He does give his opinion. And he tells you he is a
conservative. Now does Mr. Reid, does Ms. Bill Clinton,
does Mr. Obama. The later tells you they are Democrats,
but are they. Nope. They are Socialist.

They have made too much money in the free market to be socialists.

[ChumpDumper]

I didn't know you could think. You have never demonstrated
it on this forum.

I know you can think, x. You just aren't very good at it and prefer to let others do it for you.

[George Gervin's Afro]

Accuracy determined by whom?

They have made too much money in the free market to be socialists.

shhhh don't tell ray that. he doesn't realize they are rich and would suffer if socialism was introduced and pushed in our country.. let ray continue to think they are socialists..

[SRJ]

Why not, Chump?