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    Whether or not he is shooting well... defenders don't leave Barry open often (at least they try not to).... I don't know how the Barry haters can claim that this is a detriment to the team (whether he lets it fly or not); his presence on the perimeter drastically opens up the space for the other 4 players on the court, it also means that when he plays on Duncan's side that his defender can't double Timmy hard.

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    If barry can continue to be agressive, bring the defensive intensity he will be missed greatly.

    But if he goes back into his past 3 year hole, then Udoka is better for the tema to be out there than him.

    Plain and simple.

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    If barry can continue to be agressive, bring the defensive intensity he will be missed greatly.

    But if he goes back into his past 3 year hole, then Udoka is better for the tema to be out there than him.

    Plain and simple.

    I like Udoka

    I like Barry

    and I like Finley


    It's a great thing to have that wing player combination on our squad...

    It's a shame they can't all play as many minutes as would be needed to show why they fit on the team. If you gave each of them 25 minutes (and at least 15 with the big three), I'm pretty sure that all three players would put up the numbers to show that they belong. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way and here we are complaining.

    Udoka probably has the best defense, Finley provides better rebounding when he's out there, and Barry provides better ball movement. It is in this department that the Spurs have looked lack-luster of late - which is why times like these remind us of Barry's other strengths and why we shouldn't take for granted his contribution to that facet of the Spurs' offense.

    Is that so hard to concede?

    Let's not also forget that he and Finley provide a fine set of clutch free-throw shooting options for Pop in late game situations...

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    The biggest issue is he can't perform well offensively when playing against tough defensive team in the playoff. He can be good against Suns or other run & gun teams. SPURS need some good shooters and slashers to breakdown the defense for tough team. This year, hope he can perform better in this dept.

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    Point = missed.

    The team is lacking crisp ball movement and cohesion right now - those are two things Barry brings a lot of (along with hustle and 3-pt shooting) although he doesn't get much credit for it.

    This team will look a lot better when he's back.
    not exactly. those are the things you come to expect from a veteran who played his early career in an open court system. other than his defense, his game is pretty to watch.

    barry epitomizes what the spurs look for in a free agent (at least those that they have signed and kept over the years). he is: a veteran; an outside threat; smart; relatively cheap compared to his skills (well, not exactly).

    but reading your post, we seem to agree on something. that is, barry is good for the spurs. i merely pointed his primary function, you stated his bonuses.

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    I like Udoka

    I like Barry

    and I like Finley


    It's a great thing to have that wing player combination on our squad...

    It's a shame they can't all play as many minutes as would be needed to show why they fit on the team. If you gave each of them 25 minutes (and at least 15 with the big three), I'm pretty sure that all three players would put up the numbers to show that they belong. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way and here we are complaining.

    Udoka probably has the best defense, Finley provides better rebounding when he's out there, and Barry provides better ball movement. It is in this department that the Spurs have looked lack-luster of late - which is why times like these remind us of Barry's other strengths and why we shouldn't take for granted his contribution to that facet of the Spurs' offense.

    Is that so hard to concede?

    Let's not also forget that he and Finley provide a fine set of clutch free-throw shooting options for Pop in late game situations...
    if there's only a way to morph all three into 1 player and somehow reduce the age to 25...

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    While Barry being out hurts because he was playing well and was a key bench player before his injury, I can't put too much stock into the thought that Barry being out is what has lead the Spurs to struggle. Barry was healthy last year when the Spurs were struggling even worse than they are now.

    I think the Spurs are pretty close to turning on their engines and maybe the return of Barry will spark that process a bit but I don't think what we've seen recently is a straight cause and effect.

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    While Barry being out hurts because he was playing well and was a key bench player before his injury, I can't put too much stock into the thought that Barry being out is what has lead the Spurs to struggle. Barry was healthy last year when the Spurs were struggling even worse than they are now.

    I think the Spurs are pretty close to turning on their engines and maybe the return of Barry will spark that process a bit but I don't think what we've seen recently is a straight cause and effect.
    of course not. saying so would mean that Barry is the MVP of this team.

    his return would be perfect timing as the team will be on its annual road pilgrimage.
    Last edited by m33p0; 01-13-2008 at 05:33 AM.

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    While Barry being out hurts because he was playing well and was a key bench player before his injury, I can't put too much stock into the thought that Barry being out is what has lead the Spurs to struggle. Barry was healthy last year when the Spurs were struggling even worse than they are now.

    I think the Spurs are pretty close to turning on their engines and maybe the return of Barry will spark that process a bit but I don't think what we've seen recently is a straight cause and effect.
    I'm not going as far as to say Barry's absence is the only reason we've struggled, but I think one of the major things missing right now is cohesion and he will bring a lot of that back. Vaughn brings hussle, Barry brings unselfish team play, especially in the motion offense. It's amazing how he can come in, make a few clever passes to players who aren't involved, and change the whole dynamic of a rotation.

    That said, Manu losing the splint, Oberto's return to the SL, Timmy having confidence in his leg again will all help.

    I don't think we're too far away from a step forward.

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    Shaq Sux

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    He's funny in those HEB commercials. I think any sized contract to keep him in a Spurs uniform doing those HEB spots is money well spent.

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