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    Meanwhile, the wing-nut establishment has spoken...it seems like Huckster is the 'chosen' Republican candidate since 9iu11iani has come up unelectable because of 'indiscretions'.....
    What is it with you 'demonizing demonrats'?

    Why does a republican have to be squeaky clean, but a demonrat can have any and all indiscretions, and still be electable?
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    Why does a republican have to be squeaky clean, but a demonrat can have any and all indiscretions, and still be electable?

    Also,

    Huckster is making me nervous. I initially liked him because he was owning these fools during the debates, but it seems like more questionable comes out every day on this guy. The Pardons? wtf.

    And then tonight I noticed (didn't get a chance to watch it) that Huck was on O'Reily with Chuck Norris? Huck are you serious man? It was funny at first, but he is killing the freaking Chuck Norris endorsement.
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    Seriously, people? Isn't Mike Huckabee basically a cross between Gomer Pyle and Steve Carill's character on The Office?
    He sure is.

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    I read that the Repugs are now polling for Huck because they really haven't been excited by RG and Willard who sort of created their own momentum in spite of their obvious faults as seen by the "religious" dolts.

    iow, the Repugs and red-staters, and esp the "Christian" supremacist and s who apply a "religious test" as their primary criterion for office (dubya passed that test and led the s and country straight to but, "he's a "Christian" ") are getting behind Huck by default, there's nobody else, to escape the faults of RG and Willard.

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    iow, the Repugs and red-staters, and esp the "Christian" supremacist and s who apply a "religious test" as their primary criterion for office.
    Nope, there's no test being given, but there is still a significant part of the population in America who have a conscience. That being the case, when a candidate for the Presidency declares that he couldn't care less that an American is destroyed in its mothers' womb at the rate of 5,000 every 36 hours, they stand to lose the vote of the morally consciencious.
    For those that claim they are personally against abortion, but support the woman's right to destroy a living human being <hypocrites> )are all lumped together, regardless of how emphatically they deny it.

    Ironically, a large majority of these same people who hold absolutely no regard for the mass slaughter of the unborn, holler at the top of their collective lungs about how disturbed they are over the roughly 5,000 honorable American soldiers that have been killed since the beginning of the Afghanistan/Iraq Conflicts <hypocrites>.
    By default, this indifferce to our society's propensity for disposing of the unborn, as thoughtlessly as they dispose of a bag of garbage, aligns you dead center with the pro-abortion cretins.

    Herein lies the Great Paradox; It matters not to them that, without cessation, 5,000 Americans are destroyed every 36 hours in the womb, but it matters greatly to them that over a period of 6 years the same number of honorable American soldiers are killed..., PUHLEEEZ!!

    I absolutely care more about the moral decay in the U.S. than the position a candidate has on less important issues, such as, the GW hype, illegal immigration, offshore drilling for fuels, taxation, etc.
    There may still be a majority of Americans who are sensitive to all issues, but put greater weight on a candidate's (of either Party) position on moral issues.

    I am among those that still have a conscience.

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    So joch, you're on board with Huckabee, even though his grasp of the issues is less than that of half the posters in this forum?

    Things Mike Huckabee does not know about:
    1) The Communist revolution in Cuba
    2) The Cuban Missile Crisis
    3) The Islamic revolution in Iran
    4) The contents and release date of the NIE on Iran
    5) The name of the federal immigration service (Immigration and Customs Enforcement)
    6) How AIDS is transmitted
    7) The operation of the U.S. detention center in Guantanamo Bay

    Generally, I prefer that presidential candidates know more about public affairs and current events than I do.

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    So joch, you're on board with Huckabee, even though his grasp of the issues is less than that of half the posters in this forum?

    Things Mike Huckabee does not know about:
    1) The Communist revolution in Cuba
    2) The Cuban Missile Crisis
    3) The Islamic revolution in Iran
    4) The contents and release date of the NIE on Iran
    5) The name of the federal immigration service (Immigration and Customs Enforcement)
    6) How AIDS is transmitted
    7) The operation of the U.S. detention center in Guantanamo Bay

    Generally, I prefer that presidential candidates know more about public affairs and current events than I do.
    Honest question or sarcasm Stout? If it's the latter, and is believe it was, the answer to your sarcasm was implied in an earlier post of mine (it would have been no).
    You went way out of your way to attack a point that wasn't even remotely implied. Well done (sarcasm volley returned)

    Any non-sarcastic thoughts about the "great paradox"?
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    Honest question or sarcasm Stout?
    Misunderstanding.

    Any non-sarcastic thoughts about the "great paradox"?
    The solution to the riddle is that the other side does not regard the aborted fetus as a human being, since their position is not rooted in Biblical principles, but rather moral relativism.

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    Okay, strike everything I wrote about sarcasm


    The solution to the riddle is that the other side does not regard the aborted fetus as a human being, since their position is not rooted in Biblical principles, but rather moral relativism.
    Thanks for your thoughts.

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    The solution to the riddle is that the other side does not regard the aborted fetus as a human being, since their position is not rooted in Biblical principles, but rather moral relativism.
    .....so the old testament was moral?

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    ...the bible itself is rooted in moral relativism....

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    .....so the old testament was moral?
    I'd explain, as I have to others in the forum, but to you... it's just tossing pearls before swine.

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    Also,

    Huckster is making me nervous. I initially liked him because he was owning these fools during the debates, but it seems like more questionable comes out every day on this guy. The Pardons? wtf.

    And then tonight I noticed (didn't get a chance to watch it) that Huck was on O'Reily with Chuck Norris? Huck are you serious man? It was funny at first, but he is killing the freaking Chuck Norris endorsement.
    I agree. I don't remember where, but I posted something similar before. I like what I hear of him during the debates, but I have heard some pretty unsettling things about him. Now I don't know if they are just political hype, or true. I haven't researched any of them I only heard the pardon issue explained to my satisfaction.

    Chuck Norris? I get a kick out of his shows, but I don’t know anything of his integrity to go by.

    What are endorsements anyway? Most are just messages that play to the weak minded when they come from someone with an unknown reputation. What is Norris’ reputation? He’s an actor… What else do we know of him?

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    Merry Christmas!


    From the Huckabees!

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    ^I can't believe that the dog's not wearing a matching shirt.

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    What a great guy!
    http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/1...g-hanging-dog/

    Huckabee Squashed Charges Against His Son For Stoning, Hanging Dog
    By: Logan Murphy on Sunday, December 16th, 2007 at 12:40 PM - PST

    Lambert over at Corrente noticed this little tidbit that Mike Huckabee definitely doesn’t want to have brought up:

    Here’s the barebones story of how 18-year-old Mike Huckabee’s son, David, and 17-year-old Clayton Frady killed a dog when they were Boy Scouts, and got fired for it. From the Arkansas Democrat-Gazette in 1998 (as quoted in DogBlog):

    [David Huckabee,] the younger son of Gov. Mike Huckabee and another teen were fired last month from jobs at a Boy Scout camp after the killing of a stray dog.[..]

    So, how and why did David Huckabee (and Clayton Frady) kill the dog?

    The original story isn’t clear in the lead (the admissions and the details come as you read down). Still from the Democrat Gazette:

    The dog was killed [passive voice] July 11 at Camp Pioneer near Hatfield.[..]

    I believe the following is the faxed description of the “particular process.” It’s on a reputable site, Utopia Animal Rescue, which is run by, of all people, Kinky Freidman:

    (Miller County, Arkansas) Two boy scout counselors, 17 year old Clayton Frady and 18 year old David litickabee [sic], the son of Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, have admitted to catching a stray dog during their summer session at Camp Pioneer in Hatfield, AR, and hanging the dog by his neck, slitting his throat and stoning him to death.

    Lambert notices that Michael Isikoff’s coverage of the story for Newsweek is particularly lacking in investigative curiosity on how David Huckabee killed the dog, which as you can see above, really does color the event.

    Digby’s on top of this too. The Huckster’s son seems to be a real winner and his father tried to cover up his sick, twisted behavior — the same kind of behavior that landed former NFL star Michael Vick in prison.

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    ^Good Lord, Huckabee's son should be in prison.

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    ^Good Lord, Huckabee's son should be in prison.
    It just gets worse and worse for Huck each day. It's not like he did this himself, but this guy really has some serious skeletons in his closet.

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    It just gets worse and worse for Huck each day. It's not like he did this himself, but this guy really has some serious skeletons in his closet.
    No joke. Just when I think it can't get any worse you or somebody else finds something that takes it to another level. If this is in the Huckabee family tree then what else are they hiding? Although this is bad enough.

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    I read that the Repugs are now polling for Huck because they really haven't been excited by RG and Willard who sort of created their own momentum in spite of their obvious faults as seen by the "religious" dolts.

    iow, the Repugs and red-staters, and esp the "Christian" supremacist and s who apply a "religious test" as their primary criterion for office (dubya passed that test and led the s and country straight to but, "he's a "Christian" ") are getting behind Huck by default, there's nobody else, to escape the faults of RG and Willard.
    How is that any worse than the dems relying on the Hate of Bush for their votes?

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    Merry Christmas!


    From the Huckabees!
    Do you have a recent picture? I'd be interested, not that I should even care, what they look like now.

    Wow, just saw the dog article above. That's horrible.

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    "dems relying on the Hate of Bush for their votes"

    The anti-vote occurs in every election, as much, maybe even more that the pro-issues vote. But in fact, the US votes personalities and negative/hate/attack ads, rather than issues, as the political ads always show.

    The extremely high and steady disapproval ratings for dubya are certainly a plus for the Dems, but the extremely negative facts and fiascos of dubya/ head era are totally self-inflicted.

    If only Nader had dropped out in 2000 ...

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    I wouldn't count on the hate of bush votes simply because there are plenty of hate for Hillary votes as well.

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    So who all his scene Holiday Huckabee's new political ad? Very well done.



    Tell me that "cross" in the background was coincidence.

    Merry Christmas!!

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    I have to post Ron Paul's response to that commercial.


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