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Who the wrote that bull ?Yeeeyyy! Now, when he played a few solid games, Slovenian cavalry is storming in?
I love bandwagon fans!
And now the funniest thing posted today:
dont worry its a contract year for beno
he be back to his old self once the maloofs pay him $$$ > MLE
Who the wrote that bull ?Yeeeyyy! Now, when he played a few solid games, Slovenian cavalry is storming in?
I love bandwagon fans!
And now the funniest thing posted today:
The Spurs were right to dump him, he wouldn't amount to anything with them unless maybe if the coach changed and he'd be given the starting spot.
It's great that he's playing well, but we'll see what happens when Bibby returns.
Good job by Beno. Hopefully he can stay focused, in shape and revive his NBA career.
It's great that he's fitting well with the Kings, but if he thinks this is the reason why he spent so much time in Pop's doghouse, then he really didn't learn much in his time in SA."Playing regular minutes has helped my confidence. In San Antonio I never knew how much I would play. I won't come out here if I miss one or two shots in a row."
B. Udrih (SAC)
23 pts, 6 ast
4 reb
vs DET
That is a prove that POP sucks and must be fired!!!
How is it possible that Beno and Scola are doing well suddenly?
They play beter in the systems where they do have a chance for more minutes.
In sacto beno beats Parker and in Houston Scola beats Tim (well you never know how would scola play along ith TD)
As long Pop's* system wins championships players have to adjust...
*I still blame Pop for 2006 (small ball, NVE)
Beno's rookie contract was expiring when he got cut by Minnesota after the trade. If he continued not to care as a Kings player, he is out of the NBA for good. It's too bad the Spurs "discriminate against European players." and pull players for "missing a shot or two." Please pardon me while i puke!
I read the interviews he gave to some of his homeland newspapers (shown here on ST) with some of the completely off the wall comments. I saw the
"Welcome Home Beno" party flyers posted here over the summer. This guy was on complete cruise control here in San Antonio - just fat and unhappy drawing a nice paycheck. Beno worked hard at clubbin' instead of playing basketball. Putting Beno in the regular rotation last year would have greatly diminished the SAS chances of winning a 4th championship. No doubt about it.
Opportunity after opportunity to make a real contribution to the Spurs was squandered due to his lack of work ethic after his first year here. Most of us here can agree Beno was a pretty good backup most of his first year (NBA Western Conference ROM in November 2004). Then came the 2005 NBA finals series against Detroit (remember that?), which put this guy in a complete tailspin and he simply was not a reliable player from that point forward.
This recent success (in scoring a few points and actually showing some interest in staying in the NBA) just illustrates that Uldrih became a lazy liability when he was here. He quit competing here because in San Antonio Popovich established expectations and accountability on both ends of the floor - Beno cratered under that kind of pressure.
If playing NBA basketball was strictly about having offensive talent, scoring 20 points and nothing else, Walter Berry and "Sweet Pea" Lloyd Daniels would have had long, successful NBA careers. Just because Beno was in the NBA players union did not mean he had to go on a one man strike the last two years. This whole "Look at me and my boxscores in Sacramento" business should piss off all of us even more because he could have been a good bench player here.
Sorry guys, I'm not buying what Beno is selling right now. It just illustrates that he was stealing money from not only the Spurs (his former employer) but all of the Spurs fans who were paying his salary in the end.
Last edited by Harry Callahan; 11-19-2007 at 07:05 AM.
Guy is just playing BB as he could. He is not saying »look at my…« It is just you look at his box score. I really don't know why.
sign Beno!
The point is he didn't want just to be a bench player...and that his skills are definitely not the ones of a back up role.
The reason he was definely took out of Popovich consideration in his second season has been a single (orrible, o.k.) game against the Pistons in the finals (but remember that in the some season, in a regular season game, he did wonders against the some team....Pistons) !
He passed in a moment from a great compe or for being the starting point guard (like someone else said before, there were people in this forum asking for him to start...and that means that also TP has had some bad games, without being immediatly crucified) to a third player for the point guard spot with no minutes and no consideration.
O.K.. it's sure he's not (or he's not been) mentally strong...and that the spurs have to look, first of all, at their own good.
But I really think that the decision to take (and prefere) a point guard like NVE, in his clear fast decline, promising him minutes and the back up role at the point at the expense of an emerging young player needing to regain his confidence has been, simply, absolutely wrong...as, at the some time, was wrong to "yell" against the boy after the team has shown a clear - and i think excessive - lack of confidence in him...a behavior that, imho, is quite impossible to eliminate from Beno's mind.
That's, I think, the reason for his intervies...the real lack of confidence in his situation with the spurs.
That said, the decision to sell him, at this point, was the only possible one.
Good luck to him and hope that Jaque and D.W. gives us what we needed and need from our back up point guard!!!
Hey Mr. RocketmanThe Spurs are quickly becoming the Walmart of the NBA. Just for cap space if ya need a baller, we will give ya one for nothing. Scola to the Rockets and Beno to the Kings.
At least the Spurs draft players who have the talent to be a "baller". Take a look at the Rockets draft picks the last decade (Outside of Yao - which was a no brainer). I don't want to bore you with all the details (here's a hint Luther Head is the only other drafted guy still on the roster outside of Yao prior to the 2007 draft).
Let's move on and highlight a few bright shining moments of Rockets Front Office in recent years.
Mr. Rocketman:
Are you laughing your ass off at the Rockets passing over Tony Parker three times in the 2001 NBA draft - none of those players are in the NBA now. Tony is one of the top 25 players in the NBA. The Rockets still do not have a legitimate NBA point guard which will be their ultimate undoing again this year. Ballhogs like Alston and James will get you beat in a seven game series.
Are you laughing your ass off for the Rockets trading away three players drafted in the first round of the 2002 draft (including a guy named Richard Jefferson) for Eddie Griffin, who is currently not an active NBA player because he happens to be DEAD after a recent successful attempt at suicide
Are you laughing your ass off for the Rockets drafting Rudy Gay in 2006 with a top ten draft pick and trading him immediately to the Grizzlies? You remember him? Last week he posterized the entire Rockets front line during a Grizzlies defeat of the Rockets. Gay is becoming an outstanding player this year. Rudy may already be the best player on the Memphis roster (Yes better than Pau Gasol). Do you think he might become a better player than role player Shane Battier (the player Houston got from Memphis)? He already is a better player and by a mile.
Sit down and shut up Mr. Rocketman. I'm still waiting for your team to win a playoff series (what is it - ten years and counting?). By the way, Mehmet Okur can shoot the three point shot - the Rockets could not seem to understand that in the latest playoff implosion. The next opponent of the Jazz in the 2007 playoffs turned Okur inside and out so bad that he eventually quit playing. I think we all know who that opponent was.
Last edited by Harry Callahan; 11-19-2007 at 08:04 AM.
had beno stayed in shape, he couldve been a better version of BJ Armstrong of the 3peat bulls
Hey Mr. Rocketman
At least the Spurs draft players who have the talent to be a "baller". Take a look at the Rockets draft picks the last decade (Outside of Yao - which was a no brainer). I don't want to bore you with all the details (here's a hint Luther Head is the only other drafted guy still on the roster outside of Yao prior to the 2007 draft).
Let's move on and highlight a few bright shining moments of Rockets Front Office in recent years.
Mr. Rocketman:
Are you laughing your ass off at the Rockets passing over Tony Parker three times in the 2001 NBA draft - none of those players are in the NBA now. Tony is one of the top 25 players in the NBA. The Rockets still do not have a legitimate NBA point guard which will be their ultimate undoing again this year. Ballhogs like Alston and James will get you beat in a seven game series.
Are you laughing your ass off for the Rockets trading away three players drafted in the first round of the 2002 draft (including a guy named Richard Jefferson) for Eddie Griffin, who is currently not an active NBA player because he happens to be DEAD after a recent successful attempt at suicide
Are you laughing your ass off for the Rockets drafting Rudy Gay in 2006 with a top ten draft pick and trading him immediately to the Grizzlies? You remember him? Last week he posterized the entire Rockets front line during a Grizzlies defeat of the Rockets. Gay is becoming an outstanding player this year. Rudy may already be the best player on the Memphis roster (Yes better than Pau Gasol). Do you think he might become a better player than role player Shane Battier (the player Houston got from Memphis)? He already is a better player and by a mile.
Sit down and shut up Mr. Rocketman. I'm still waiting for your team to win a playoff series (what is it - ten years and counting?). By the way, Mehmet Okur can shoot the three point shot - the Rockets could not seem to understand that in the latest playoff implosion. The next opponent of the Jazz in the 2007 playoffs turned Okur inside and out so bad that he eventually quit playing. I think we all know who that opponent was.
Totally agree with this assessment. You have players like Finley, Hedo, and even Tony Parker (who also wasn't all that good against the Pistons in the 2005 Finals either) that have been handled with kid gloves no matter how much they ed up but Beno was always the whipping boy for some reason. I hope the kid has a lot of success in his new surroundings.
Well in a way Beno is right about not getting a chance in San Antonio... to start and play 35+ minutes.
Nobody has questioned the work effort or commitment of either Fin or Parker. Can't say the same for Beno.
Pop's system destroyed Beno's confidence, I agree.
If it was me, I think I too would have stopped caring after the NVE disaster. It didn't take a basketball scientist to see the NVE had nothing left to give. Yet Pop kept calling his number to prove a point...what was the point?
Pop ain't perfect - the NVE obsession was a flat-out shameful disgrace. I still get angry if I think about it.
Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your pock-marked face. It probably cost us a ring.
"I chose this team because I knew I would get an opportunity to play; I didn't get that in San Antonio," said Udrih, who played three seasons with the Spurs and owns two championship rings.
"Playing regular minutes has helped my confidence. In San Antonio I never knew how much I would play. I won't come out here if I miss one or two shots in a row."
we've all had or seen situations at work where a supervisor and a subordinate just don't get along and the subordinate is never going to get out of the doghouse. It happens all the time in Sports where talented players and great coaches simply can't get on the same page.
I refer you to Bill Parcells/T.O. Owens; Van Gundy/Spanoulis; George Karl/lots of guys; Carlisimo/Sprewell. On the Spurs, I refer you to Steve Jax and Malik. Some people here thought they got the shaft from Pop.
Looked at another way, we were damn lucky that T. Parker's personality and character was such that he didn't get down on Pop and give up on the Spurs when he first got here. He and Pop 'clicked' but Pop and Beno didn't.
As much as I love what Pop does with the team, I recognize he isn't God. Whatever happened with Beno here, it's obvious that he and Pop were like oil and water.
Despite Pop's vaunted "they play if they earn it" reputation, maybe that isn't always the case if he gets a certain 'read' on a player and decides he isn't 'with' the system. In the long run, especially with role players, it's best they move on because Pop and his system ain't going anywhere until Duncan says so..
Yes!!!
I shouldn't have said it ^. I'm a little embarrassed
When the pressure's off, Udrih can perform.
Beno wanted guaranteed minutes and the freedom to play through his mistakes. That's why he is on a lottery team today.
Good for him. I think it just has to do with Beno having a chance to play big time minutes. That's all. We'll see how he plays when Bibby returns. For now, he's doing good and that's good for him and the Kings.
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