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he had a machete but not a piece?!
damn it, you never bring a knife to a gunfight.
if i was rich as , you damn sure i'd have a gun on the ready for home protection.
YUP!
this is some sad man.... he was one of my favorite players... been a sean taylor fan since he was playing for The U
he had a machete but not a piece?!
damn it, you never bring a knife to a gunfight.
if i was rich as , you damn sure i'd have a gun on the ready for home protection.
yup one of mine as well all i know is that heaven got a of a safety so rest in peace sean
1983-2007
FYI Lebron grew up in a neighborhood that has the 2nd highest crime rate in all of Ohio after Glenville where Ted Ginn, Troy Smith, and Donte Whitner are from. Mabye not as bad a Taylor's, but he is from a rough neighborhood. But I take your point
Last edited by Thunder Dan; 11-27-2007 at 01:00 PM.
Too bad you and Taylor couldn't switch places.Sean Taylor is taking a dirt nap and the deadskins aren't making the playoffs again so he's sad...
This is horrible news. My thoughts and prayers go to him and his family. May he R.I.P.
ty day for the NFL and Taylor's family. My great grandmother passed the day before Thanksgiving, so I can vaguely relate. Sucks that he had such a great future ahead of him and died so young.
Damn, this just rose up all of a sudden. As a person who has defended his home in a night time home invasion I understand how damn scary it is and how the difference between being alive and dead can hinge on such minute details as the protection immediately available and training in handling these types of attacks. Hopefully he was smart with his money and his wife and kid will at least have the means available to carry on without financial worries. Such unnecessary violence.
This is a very sad and unfortunate story. Just a few hours ago, there was positive news.
From what I've read, it sounds as though he'd turned his life around since the birth of his child. It's too bad he didn't have a chance to fully live up to his potential as a father and teammate.
JT - I'm very sorry to hear about your great grandmother.
Awesome video.
I wish Roy Williams had half of Taylor's deep coverage knowledge.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2...ge=hill/071127
Sean Taylor's death wasn't random.
Maybe it was, but it wasn't.
As the details emerge about the cir stances surrounding Taylor's death and Miami police hunt for the person responsible for claiming a vibrant life, this much already is true: The grim, horrible statistic won again.
The leading cause of death for black men 15 to 24 is homicide. Taylor, who died from a gunshot wound early Tuesday in connection with an apparent robbery at his home, was 24.
For the second time this year, an NFL player -- a young, black male -- has been murdered. Tragedy struck on the first day of 2007 when Darrent Williams, a Denver Broncos defensive back, was shot to death during a drive-by near a Denver nightclub after attending the birthday party for Nuggets forward Kenyon Martin.
Denver police believe the shooting was linked to an altercation involving people who were with Williams that day. He wasn't involved in the altercation. Not that the bullet cared. He was 24 when he died, too.
Their fame and wealth and playing for respected professional sports franchises didn't protect Williams and Taylor from an epidemic more lethal and closer than any war overseas, or any boogeyman terrorist we can unearth or create.
Violence in America has laid a special claim on young, black men. When it made its way to Taylor's exclusive suburban Miami neighborhood, it didn't care that Taylor was engaged, the father of an 18-month-old daughter, the son of a police chief, a trusted teammate, the fifth overall pick in the 2004 draft, a hard-hitting safety who teammates nicknamed "Meast" (half-man, half-beast), a Pro Bowler, the Redskins' leading tackler last season. Or that a plaque honoring him for a generous, monetary donation rests in the cafeteria at his former high school, Gulliver Preparatory.
"It sounded like things were getting better," a still-dazed Steve Howey, Taylor's high school coach, said early Tuesday morning. "To find out he'd died this morning, it just knocked the wind out of me."
Howey, now the football coach and athletic director at St. John Neumann High School in Naples, Fla., won a state le with Taylor in 2000 -- the defensive back's senior year. This is the first football player he's ever lost to violence.
"You hear about stuff like this from time to time," Howey said. "It's never been this close."
Perhaps the most pertinent question is, how much closer does it have to get before we realize these unfortunate incidents are reflective of an enormous crisis that requires our immediate attention and action?
A New York Times article reported the homicide rate among young, black men in America was seven times higher than any foreign country studied.
That article was published in 1990.
Why has nothing changed?
Studies conducted in 2006 at Columbia, Princeton, Harvard and other ins utions concluded a black man is more than six times as likely to be murdered than a white man.
This isn't to say Taylor was killed because he was black. This is to say that, because he was black, Taylor was more likely to be killed. The weight of that should be just as jarring as waking up and discovering an NFL player died from a gunshot wound. Please don't roll your eyes, release a frustrated breath, and trivialize this as "playing the race card."
This is an American problem, not just a racial one. The fact that it has spilled into the sports world should indicate just how serious it is.
As unfortunate as Taylor's death is, as representative as it is of a much more substantive issue, the saddest part is his passing may never be put in its proper perspective.
Although study after study shows black men are more likely to be victims of crime, rarely do they receive victim treatment. When black athletes are crime victims, the undertone seems to be they somehow were at fault. Eddy Curry, Antoine Walker and Bucs cornerback Phillip Buchanon all have been victims of home invasions that seem as orchestrated as the one that claimed Taylor's life. In March of 2006, Buchanon was stripped naked and tied up by seven men in ski masks who robbed him and jammed a gun in his mouth. This past July, Curry and his family were bound by duct tape as men robbed him at gunpoint in his suburban Chicago home. The Pistons' Flip Murray narrowly escaped the same fate, slamming the door on two gunmen on his porch before he called police. Yet we seem to think it's much more likely a black athlete is holding the gun instead of staring down the barrel of one.
By now, everyone is well aware of Taylor's past brushes with the law. They should be equally aware that those who knew him best thought he had distanced himself from those troubles; he was someone who had overcome the growing pains associated with being a professional athlete given unimaginable wealth at a young age. No matter what, Taylor's past doesn't in any way justify him meeting this tragic present.
We should, of course, remember Taylor with a heavy heart. But it's even more important that we remember there are thousands just like him in communities within walking and easy driving distance. And they shouldn't have to wear a NFL uniform for us to care about them.
Here's hoping those at the Gates weren't tossing a football around this morning.
That is one wicked hit!!!
You know what I remember most about that play?
Moorman got up, found Taylor and gave him props for the hit. You gotta respect a guy that played his ass off and earned the respect of his peers.
I always thought that hit was kind of a move because 1)it was a punter, and 2) it was the Pro Bowl.....but at the same time you've gotta give him props because he always played balls-out, even in an exhibition. He will definitely be missed by everyone who loves football the way it's meant to be played.
I've read most of the thread and despite the expected name-calling and arguing, there are some good discussion points here. Here are a few of my thoughts:
-Glorified in death as a good man or good teammate or a guy turning it around is expected, and I think it's fair that he was a good man and good teammate and a guy turning his life around to "some" people. And, it's most important to his family and friends and those close to him whether he was a good man or husband, father, friend, teammate than it will be for fans or media or anyone else that didn't know him personally. I think everyone should understand when someone in the public eye dies, the good things about that person will be most predominantly mentioned.
-His history definitely would lead some to assume that this wasn't a random death by a random criminal. I don't think it means it couldn't be random, but I don't think it's wrong to assume there's more behind the story than some random crime.
-Plenty of people grow up poor and/or in very tough, crime-ridden neighborhoods. That doesn't mean they can escape that life even if they want to. Some inferences in this thread make it seem like Taylor should have disassociated himself from certain people or should have stopped hanging around a certain crowd. The other problem with that when a pro athlete or any celebrity with money tries to do that is that he/she becomes a "sellout" in the eyes of some AND still remains a target for other reasons, including selling out. Some pro athletes might run into trouble hanging out with the wrong people. Other pro athletes might get into trouble because they stopped hanging out with the wrong people. Crime happens no matter who you are, where you grew up, what you do for a living, and how much money you make. I'm sure there are different degrees of probability into getting in trouble like this when you carry weapons, do drugs, fund illegal dog fighting rings, get into gambling with the mafia, and so forth. But, that doesn't preclude a pro athlete who walks the straight line finding himself in similar trouble. And, until the whole truth is found out, you cannot simply suggest that had Sean Taylor not hung out with the wrong crowd, this wouldn't have happened.
-I read earlier in this thread someone post the "Redskins will miss him." I don't think it was the intent of the poster to mean it a certain way, but for me, I would be less concerned about the Redskins (including his teammates that were close to him) or Redskins fans than I would be for his family and those people that are close to him. I'm sure they will miss him more than the Redskins organization.
-I don't think we need to put Sean Taylor up on a pedestal saying he was turning his life around or that he was a good man in order to mourn his death or glorify his life. No one is perfect and Sean Taylor definitely was not. But, we can do it tactfully and respectfully acknowledging he had his problems, including problems with the law, and yet his death is still tragic and mournful and his life was still valuable beyond that of a pro football player, especially to those who loved him.
R.I.P.
What he said.
Idon't think we need to put Sean Taylor up on a pedestal saying he was turning his life around or that he was a good man in order to mourn his death or glorify his life. No one is perfect and Sean Taylor definitely was not. But, we can do it tactfully and respectfully acknowledging he had his problems, including problems with the law, and yet his death is still tragic and mournful and his life was still valuable beyond that of a pro football player, especially to those who loved him.
Well said.
Good post, JamStone.
Lotta people walking around DC like zombies today.
I will tell you one thing, there will be a whole lot of receivers and running backs feeling a whole lot better on the field without seeing #36 or # 21on the opposing side of the ball.
I am a lifelong Redskins fan, and I dreaded turning on the TV this morning...I had a bad feeling ST was dead...things will never be the same in DC...I'm just sick to my stomach over this...I hope they find the er who did this and fry him twice.
The only time I have ever seen TO get alligator arms (twice actually) was when Sean Taylor was roaming the middle.
He was quietly establishing himself as the best safety in the game. He could jar the ball lose from any WR, his mis-tackles seemed to be a thing of the past, and despite being 220 lbs, his coverage skills were better than most corners.
If he had not gotten hurt, and Redskins didn't screw themselves in a number of close games, he would have been making a serious bid for defensive MVP.
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