Councilwoman: Hwy. 281 Commuters Can Afford Toll Roads

[johnsmith]

I would love for someone to explain why that is

I would love for someone to explain to me why a bunch of people that will never use this road are so against it.







Wait, I'm in San Antonio, nothing this town does makes sense, why should this?

[SpursWoman]

Oh really? Well then wait until they toll roads AND intersections by your house and you have to pay everyday to use an exisitng freeway. Pay for an exisitng road already paid for on top of the gas taxes you pay for.

I don't live there, but I've to go out there every morning for the last couple of months and sometimes it's taken me over an hour to get from Lookout Canyon to 1604.

The toll will be for new road/lanes built...not existing ones.

[JoeChalupa]

I would love for someone to explain to me why a bunch of people that will never use this road are so against it.







Wait, I'm in San Antonio, nothing this town does makes sense, why should this?

There are those who will never go to war but are against it or will never own a gun but are for gun control or will never be pregnant but are against abortion. If that makes any sense.

[johnsmith]

There are those who will never go to war but are against it or will never own a gun but are for gun control or will never be pregnant but are against abortion. If that makes any sense.

Yeah, that makes sense and I see your point, but those are issues that effect humanity. Toll roads effect travelers along US 281.

[KEDA]

Here is a visual aid for those who continue to misunderstand.





Maybe the pretty pictures and pretty colors will make it easier!

[Shelly]

Here is a visual aid for those who continue to misunderstand.





Maybe the pretty pictures and pretty colors will make it easier!

That's what they did on the 91 freeway in CA. They just added another lane for FastTrak only.

[Mdot.HIM.not]

The toll will be for new road/lanes built...not existing ones.

yes

[mookie2001]

Because those people utterly and absolutely believe in privatisation of EVERYTHING - the military (Blackwater, etc), roads, health, education, everything, should be privately run in their opinion. They are the embodiment of pure free market socio-economic ideology, despite the fact that some services are poorly provided for or missed out altogether by the market.

true, true, true

but there is also the wealth part

in this thread

-why do you care?, you dont live on the white side of town like me!

[Extra Stout]

They should convert the tollbooths into weed dispensers for drivers.

[mookie2001]

i bet those poor folk stuck in traffic decided to move to that side of town for the shopping

[JoeChalupa]

Yeah, that makes sense and I see your point, but those are issues that effect humanity. Toll roads effect travelers along US 281.

I concur. I don't use 281 unless I have to but if a toll road was built I'd probably use it. I use them when in Houston all the time.

[mrsmaalox]

They should convert the tollbooths into weed dispensers for drivers.

Yea that way everyone will just turn up their tunes and groove in the traffic jam! End of complaining!!!

[travis2]

I don't travel 281N hardly at all, so it can be said I don't have a dog in the fight.

However, the plans are for 1604 across the north side as well. That I do travel.

What I am concerned about are things happening such as:

a. reduced/canceled maintenance on free lanes
b. lowered speed limits on free lanes
c. "compensation" being paid to private toll control to make up "lost income" from not enough people using toll lanes

in order to force (excuse me, "incentivize") using the toll lanes.

If none of those come into play, I guess I have no problem. But if any one of the above is an option, then under no ing cir stances will I support building toll lanes.

I don't trust TxDoT anyway, for multiple reasons, which are not exclusive to the toll road controversy.

[SpursWoman]

yes

I know, I wasn't asking a question.

[xrayzebra]

I don't travel 281N hardly at all, so it can be said I don't have a dog in the fight.

However, the plans are for 1604 across the north side as well. That I do travel.

What I am concerned about are things happening such as:

a. reduced/canceled maintenance on free lanes
b. lowered speed limits on free lanes
c. "compensation" being paid to private toll control to make up "lost income" from not enough people using toll lanes

in order to force (excuse me, "incentivize") using the toll lanes.

If none of those come into play, I guess I have no problem. But if any one of the above is an option, then under no ing cir stances will I support building toll lanes.

I don't trust TxDoT anyway, for multiple reasons, which are not exclusive to the toll road controversy.

Travis,I still haven't figured out why they State of Texas
can't issue bonds, build it themselves and operate it.
And the talk about .17 cents per mile, that is pretty
expensive if you have to travel it twice a day for five
days a week. And the State is still going to give these
folks money to help build it. , the Dallas/Ft. Worth
tollway was built, as far as I know, entirely with
private money and the DPS Troopers were paid out of
tolls collected. It is now free to all comers. The hair
screwed this one up bigtime.

But the movers and shakers in SA want it, so it is
going to happen, I promise you that.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

How many people actually visit that site or even better, click on the bios? I'm talking about getting that out there on the news and in the paper.

I love how all you can come up with in response to her comments are to attack her as the messenger. Classic.

[T Park]

You people that think the silly government will be happy with "just the new lanes"
being double taxed.

I have some ocean front property in Arizona to sell you.


Pay double sometimes TRIPLE for your roads!!

YIPPEE!!!

[T Park]

They are the embodiment of pure free market socio-economic ideology, despite the fact that some services are poorly provided for or missed out altogether by the market.

Or maybe because Government beuracracies everything up?

Nahhh, too sensible.

[shyne]

houston has toll roads and the TRAFFIC SUCKS!!! all those toll booths slow down traffic at those points. even if you have the ez pass people start slowing way down and clog the roadways at the pay points...