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Perhaps you forget his foul on Nowitzki? Getting his pocket picked by Kevin Martin? Getting a jumper drilled in his face by Derek Fisher?
rascal posting when the Spurs lose is as classic as it gets
Perhaps you forget his foul on Nowitzki? Getting his pocket picked by Kevin Martin? Getting a jumper drilled in his face by Derek Fisher?
Hard to fault him when he has to erase any mistakes around the basket all night long and gave you 36 and 17. Excellent thinking though.
Hm....... who am I going to place more blame on... someone that shoots 6-19... or someone that gets me 36 and 17?
Yesterday's loss was Manu's faul too.
He went 7-21.
Manu needs to better understand and adhere to his own personal rhythm and flow of the ball game. For example, if you're 3-point shot is not on and hasn't been on for the whole game - STOP JACKING 'EM UP. Find other options to exploit the opposition. At the same time, if another guy's shot is on ad he has it rolling - GET HIM THE BALL. On last night, Barry had moments where he was one of few Spurs that seemingly had a good rhythm going with his 3-pt shot, but didn't get many opportunities.
I love the pick and roll with Oberto. Many times it's good for cheap baskets. Yet when the defense finally figures it out and starts sitting on the passing lane - DON'T FORCE A PASS THROUGH.
Don't get me wrong. I love the fierce compe or that he his. He's one of our best playmakers. Therefore the ball is in his hands - a lot. However, at times, he kills the team and breaks positive rhythm more than anyone else on this team because he tries to do too much himself.
As much as I even find it hard for myself to believe... reviewing Manu's career... I'm starting to believe he has a low basketball IQ.
You are right. It's hard to believe.
Because that's the ultimate bull I've ever read in this forum.
And you forget we started the 4th Q of that game down by 15 bps (or more) and that basically Manu willed us back into the game. No Manu, we lose that game by 20 pts and the Nowitzki foul would irrelevant
Getting his pocket picked by Kevin Martin?
Are you talking about a 1st rounder playoff game
Who the cares, -o?
You got stuck in 2004, numskull. Fisher's mitacle shot is Manu's fault? What should have he done? Fouled him? Fisher is an 80% FT shooter.Getting a jumper drilled in his face by Derek Fisher?
Damn, you are a ing moron.
This thread highlights an intersting thing:
Some of you (Adam, SpursOutOfTown, ArgSpursFan etc etc...) were ready to believe that Manu was a franchise player (some even talked about MVP) when he had his two 37 points games (and more generally when he becomes Manu 2005). Which is pure homerism.
Quoted from SpursOutOfTown "For those who are blaming Manu, I will take note so when manu is God again, I can show what you have said today"
Others (they are just a few like Rascal or The Authority...) tend to believe after a few bad games from Manu that he is just a average player
Quoted from The Authority:
"As much as I even find it hard for myself to believe... reviewing Manu's career... I'm starting to believe he has a low basketball IQ".
Guys wake up! Manu is not God nor does he have a low BB IQ... He will never be able to lead an NBA team during a whole season like Lebron or Kobe! And he will never be an average player.
He is just somewhere in between
Any team with Tim Duncan on it will be an instant le contender. You can't say the same about anyone else on the Spurs roster (except maybe Robert Horry
Dude this is a crazy thread. Manu is a great player who is just a little off right now. The sky is not falling and Manu does not suk.
As the guy said at the end of the Animal House Movie.......All is Well. Do not Panic all is well!
I quit bustin on Manu long ago, since his plus's far exceed his minus's. They're not machines my friends.
Manu doesn't have any legs right now.
Nothing a good batch of Christmas Tamales can't fix.
So much angst, from so many fans, so early in the season... is simply not healthy.
It's Christmas time in South Texas, and the weather is damn fine!
First:
why do bring tony into this? where did i talk about him?
Second:
You don"t have to say that Manu is MVP to be a homer...
Third:
there's nothing wrong about having a favourite player as long as it doesn't alter your objectivity... in your case, it might be (a bit) debatable
as much as manu may blow a game....he makes up for it in triplets in the other ones.
I was at the game 7 in 06 against dallas. I could not stand Manu at that point and time...but, he is a stud most of the time, and plays with more heart and desire than any body else out there.
First:
you're right: i don't know you
Second:
you're right again: i'm also tired of those re s who make threads about how bad Manu is after one or two bad games. But I'm also tired of those ''Manu for MVP'' type of threads that bloom after a few great games from Manu. As i said, this player is somewhere in between.
Third:
you're wrong (sorry): i'm not a TP fan despite the fact that I'm french (tony is not that popular in his own country, mainly because of his rap album which made him looked like a re ). I'm a spurs Fan since D Rob MVP's season and my favorite player is TD right now if you're interested.
So once again, why do you bring Tony into this?
Fourth:
I love manu too and i'm not you're enemy so take it easy!
No, Manu is not as important as Duncan. Manu is more easily replaceable , Duncan is not.
You don't realize the importance of a low post dominant proven clutch player like Duncan if your saying Manu is as important as Duncan.
And The general premise of the thread starter is that Manu is not always a clutch performer and blew another clutch opportunity which lead to defeat.
Hard to argue that. The things that we love about Manu are also the things that cause us to pull our hair out sometimes.
I just want him to play smarter during crucial moments - especially when he's tired, or his shot is off or when he's double or triple teamed.
Manu is viewed by Pop as the guy who handles the ball in the last 20 seconds of every close game. He is bound to srew up, the same as Kobe, Tracy VC and all your other favorite players do.
Your point is?
Last edited by smeagol; 12-20-2007 at 02:24 PM.
can we trade manu for beno?
Yes...PLEASE!
I cant stand see'ing him make cross court right in front of 2 defender around the back hop on one leg passes...when we are down two points, and there are 6 seconds left...
that makes me want to vomit. I know he is fired up and trying to create something, but THINK! slow down and curb the emotion for a split second.
So yesterday's loss is on Duncan for letting Gay drill that 3 pointer?
You look ing stupider by the second
Agree.
+20 for Dallas (without Manu).
To me big situation is Game 3 of NBA finals 07.
Manu 0-8.
3 points.
All in the final minute.
Spurs won it by 3.
That's Emanuel Ginobili.
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