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Whatever cookie-cutter smack makes you feel better about being a Certified, Grade-A, Established in 2001, Dyed-in-the-Wool Bandwagoner who's going to run and hide once the Pats are eliminated.
"Stephen Gostkowski best kicker in the league!" is enough to discredit anything you say for life. And calling Marvin Harrison a piece of . Marv has more class in his little toe than you and your entire team.
Steve Hutchinson plays for Minnesota now. I don't know if you messed up or whoever made the list messed up. He used to play for Seattle though.
Braylon Edwards was never a bust. He didn't ever have QB who could pass until this year. He still put up pretty good numbers last year with Charlie Frye.
I just copied and pasted it from a blog, but I edited my post with the fix. Thanks.
Colombo and Kosier the only lineman who didn't make it for the Cowboys. Might as well put the whole line in there
This is coming from a Colts/Spurs fan. Hahahahahahahaha. I am sorry for calling Marvin Harrison a piece of . I wasnt talking about class and I should have been more specific. He is a FINISHED OVER THE HILL WASHED UP AGING INJURED PIECE OF ! Marvin hasnt been on a field in almost 2 months. How the do you expect to have success (if any) without him? Anthony Gonzalez is going to be so ing scared that he will drop passes more than ever when he visits Foxburo next month.
Been a Pats fan since the start of 1998-1999 season. Lost our first game against the Broncos on Monday Night football 27-21. Bledsoe got sacked a few times, Neil Smith from the Broncos got hurt. We also had 2 amazing late game victorys back to back in the middle of the season. A dramatic win over Miami and 6 days later beat Buffalo on a touchdown as time expired. A pass interference call and Ben Coates won the game for us. Pete Carrol was our coach as well. I even remember a dramatic come from behind victory we had against the Colts in 99. Wasn't that when you started to root for them? I have been a fan of the Celts the year Orlando handed us our asses in 1995 and got into red sox baseball the next year. Dont you lecture to me about front running when you have the Spurs and Colts listed as your 2 favorite teams.
Says the guy who makes a troll solely for front running Boston sports teams. This gets better and better each day.
Patriots fan calling out a Colts fan for being a front runner? Man, and I thought I'd seen it all in the 70s!
What does being a Spurs fan have to do with anything?Dont you lecture to me about front running when you have the Spurs and Colts listed as your 2 favorite teams.
Unless you are saying all Spurs fans are bandwagoners?
The Spurs don't play in Boston, and Boston is the only sports town whose teams you can be a fan of without being a front runner.
This Bostonguy is a dirty little hack. He comes on here and is nothing but a poor sport, loud mouth, lace curtain pussy. Hey buddy, I like that the Pats are smashing everyone on the field too. Take a cue from the team and just let all of these haters talk their about our Pats. We don't need no goddamn band wagoners like you who ain't even from Boston stinkin' up our great season with your rah-rah bull . Let that Dolts fan JT and all of the Dallas Cattlerancher fans dream about beating the Pats and winning the Super Bowl. We both know that ain't gonna happen.
This moron is like the football forum's version of SpursDynasty. Is this really you, jeff?
I don't have time to compile the numbers, but my sense is that when the Cowboys are good like this, they tend to get a boatload of Pro Bowlers -- more than other very good teams. Indianapolis and New England both finished 12-4 last year and had a combined 7 Pro Bowlers (5 for the Colts and 2 for the Pats (one of whom made the trip only because of an injury)). For that matter, when the Colts went 14-2 in 2005, they managed only 5 Pro Bowlers; when the Pats went 14-2 in 2003, they had 3 Pro Bowlers.
The 11 Cowboys going to Hawaii in 2008 is the most representation by any team since 2004 at least (I count that the 1991 Bills also came up with 11 Pro Bowlers); as best I can tell, it's second all-time to the 1966 Chiefs, who put 12 players in the AFL's All-Star game.
I don't think it's a particularly offensive notion to think that being a Cowboy helps one's chances to make the Pro Bowl -- it's a symbol of the team's popularity; a bit like being a Yankee at All-Star Game time.
One of the early 90's Dallas teams had 11 as well. EDIT: It was 1993.
I just don't believe, as many do, that the league sits behind closed doors and dictates outcomes. I do think that the pro bowl voting is done the best way of the major sports. 1/3 fans, 1/3 coaches and 1/3 players.
Last edited by samikeyp; 12-19-2007 at 09:35 AM.
I didn't mean it as a league-wide conspiracy type thing at all.
If Ryan Grant and Barber switched teams, who do you think would have been voted to the PB?
Not sure...the outcome could have been the same way, or Grant could have made it or neither of them could.
And I never said you did.
Yeah I read an article saying that Mario's stats came too late in the season and that is why he was snubbed. Hey he might luck out like VY and sneak in.
The Commish can still name a "Need Player" can't he?
Barber would, getting the full load in Green Bay.
I'm not saying these are dictated outcomes -- I am saying that your team is more likely to have a lot of players in the Pro Bowl if it is, arguably, the most popular team and the highest profile team in the sport.
I'm not convinced that this Cowboys' team has more talent than the 2007 Pats, the 2005 Colts, or the 2004 Colts -- nevertheless, it certainly has more all-star players than any of those teams. I don't think that's just coincidence.
I wasn't accusing you of such.
I would agree but the NFC is weaker than the AFC this year as well as in those years. If both pro bowl teams were drawn from the entire league instead of per conference, I highly doubt the Cowboys would have 11 but given the weaker state of the Conference it is possible.
Yeah. I can't wait till the Pats are bounced and he moves his to the NBA section, where I won't see most of it.
The Cowboys getting 11 in is surprising, but 2 of those are the kicker and punter. McBriar definitely deserves to be in, and Folk got in mainly from that repeat 53 yarders he kicked on MNF to win the Buffalo game. It is a popularity contest just like every other all star game, and Barber got in because of his good stats playing part time but mostly because of his popularity as a bruiser who loves contact. I don't put much stock in the Pro Bowl or other awards in sports because the pure subjective nature of them leads to nothing but popularity contests.
If you really want to talk about someone getting completely snubbed, how about the Jaguars? Posting that good of a record in the AFC with a probable playoff berth and no one gets in? No Fred Taylor?
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