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    Yeah. I recommend calling all your local Gamestops to see if they have any Wii's available and checking on craigslist to see if anyone wants to sell one locally.

    Just keep calling and checking! You will find one soon.

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    I asked just to be asking because I thiking about LB and the half of dozen other people I know who wants one, and the guys at gamestop were like february. I know Sony feels like jackasses because they were SURE that the PS3 was going to do so well. Turns out the Wii kicked their collective you know what....

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    Sony and MS got caught thinking inside the box. They basically took their existing boxes and added more power, storage, and with Sony, a Blu-Ray player. Nintendo intended for their platform to be for non-gamers, and they really hit the ball out of the park. I'm thinking that probably maybe 20% of Wiis are used by former PS and XB players and the rest are new gamers. Even though it's a gaming platform, they tapped an almost brand new audience.

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    How do you win more than you lose at drinking?




    Really? Do you go outside for exercise and random runs in the middle of January? It's now -6 outside. Even if you bundle up, you still risk damage to your system, not to mention injuring yourself when you slip and fall on ice and snow.

    I'm 5'9 and 160 pounds. I can bench press much more than I weigh. And from all my experiences, the Wii is about 100x the workout of any other console that has ever been produced. In any case, it isn't meant to replace conventional exercise. It's a video game, after all. If you want to get upset over something, why not talk about the Playstation 3, which costs $600 and offers no physical benefits at all to playing?




    Not sure what you mean by this.



    Your contention that someone is "overpaying" for something is rather open to debate. Who are you to judge what someone pays for an item that might be worth a lot to them, especially in the technology related field, which is always expanding? Value is a personal ideation and relative to each individual.

    Secondly, studies have shown that video games offer numerous mental benefits. They improve hand-eye coordination, can reduce stress levels, sharpen visual perception (in some respects), and can also improve a person's ability to handle multiple stimuli simultaneously.

    Lastly, videogames are, I daresay, a step up from TV in terms of what they offer, in that they are not completely passive entertainment. Nearly all the gamers I know are relatively active individuals. I think you are suffering from the misconception that if someone plays videogames, it's all they do. Which is understandable, but not accurate.

    I would also like to offer you a challenge. Try playing the Wii for a solid 30 minutes. Do bowling, tennis, boxing, and baseball.

    Now, I'm not saying it's a great workout. But I bet that some parts of your body are sore the next day. "Try it before you decry it."

    wow...just wow. i'm sure some people play video games in moderation, but most of the video game players i know are lazy and overweight...of course there are exceptions. i think video games promote laziness and you'd be hard pressed to convince me otherwise. that being said, do whatever you want...

    its not always -6 in missoula so i am not sure what your point is. i run outside, for rugby, at least 2 days a week and in a gym twice a week. there are all kinds of things you can do outside even in colder weather. i'd say the average temperature outside when i do sprints is 25-30 in the winter, i won't do it if its extremely cold, but i will jog...there is nothing wrong with jogging in extremely cold temperatures, absolutely nothing.

    this isn't a personal attack towards you, maybe you do get enough exercise...thats great. fyi, benching your bodyweight isn't anything impressive and says nothing about your physical condition. we live in a country where people are fat and lazy...and video games don't help.
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    I haven't tried costco yet, thanks! Sapphire, I was playing my boyfriend's wii this weekend and it was so much fun! I can't wait to get my own.


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    i got mmine in june on criagslist...for 300...just be careful of some of the people...and get a reciept w/ it

    theres hundreds on there...and most will lower the price...just depends on what u wanna pay to get it that day...not shipped...

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    Fillmoe FTW!

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    wow...just wow. i'm sure some people play video games in moderation, but most of the video game players i know are lazy and overweight...of course there are exceptions. i think video games promote laziness and you'd be hard pressed to convince me otherwise. that being said, do whatever you want...
    I think you're making a generalization based on perceptions you have about who plays video games. You feel that nerds play them, and you feel that nerds are overweight and out of shape. I know a huge proportion of people who are both hardcore and casual gamers and they are all in shape. Why do you feel the need to segment a population like that? That's like saying anyone who drinks and gambles is out of shape. It's patently untrue. I am not trying to convince you of the relative fitness of gamers, I am simply pointing out a fallacy in your reasoning.

    its not always -6 in missoula so i am not sure what your point is. i run outside, for rugby, at least 2 days a week and in a gym twice a week. there are all kinds of things you can do outside even in colder weather. i'd say the average temperature outside when i do sprints is 25-30 in the winter, i won't do it if its extremely cold, but i will jog...there is nothing wrong with jogging in extremely cold temperatures, absolutely nothing.
    If you want to get really technical, jogging is one of the most stressful, impact-inducing activities you can participate in. Every step you take inflicts several times your body weight on your knee and ankle joints, and can be extremely damaging over time.

    this isn't a personal attack towards you, maybe you do get enough exercise...thats great. fyi, benching your bodyweight isn't anything impressive and says nothing about your physical condition. we live in a country where people are fat and lazy...and video games don't help.
    I never took it as such. And I didn't say I could bench my body weight. I used to run reps with my body weight, but it hurt my wrist, so I cut back on the amount of weight I lift at one time. It was merely an example that a person can play videogames (even avidly) and still live a healthy lifestyle, and many of them do. Videogames might not have been a boon to being in shape in the past, but are you really going to single out the ONE system that actually introduces cardiovascular activity and physical exertion and attempt to say how bad it is? Look at the 360, Ps3, or any OTHER console, because the Wii is a step in the right direction for games. Several YMCAs are using it as the basis for training programs. Nursing homes are using it to allow large groups of people to "bowl" without actually go to the lanes and risk serious injury.

    Point blank, I feel what you said about how the Wii increases laziness is wrong, and there is substantial evidence to show that playing video games offers a number of benefits. Plus, you know, it's fun. And you can have fun with your alcohol. But you should know that it's unhealthy, has a number of dangerous side-effects, and can lead to laziness, alcoholism, and death.

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    I think you're making a generalization based on perceptions you have about who plays video games. You feel that nerds play them, and you feel that nerds are overweight and out of shape. I know a huge proportion of people who are both hardcore and casual gamers and they are all in shape. Why do you feel the need to segment a population like that? That's like saying anyone who drinks and gambles is out of shape. It's patently untrue. I am not trying to convince you of the relative fitness of gamers, I am simply pointing out a fallacy in your reasoning.



    If you want to get really technical, jogging is one of the most stressful, impact-inducing activities you can participate in. Every step you take inflicts several times your body weight on your knee and ankle joints, and can be extremely damaging over time.



    I never took it as such. And I didn't say I could bench my body weight. I used to run reps with my body weight, but it hurt my wrist, so I cut back on the amount of weight I lift at one time. It was merely an example that a person can play videogames (even avidly) and still live a healthy lifestyle, and many of them do. Videogames might not have been a boon to being in shape in the past, but are you really going to single out the ONE system that actually introduces cardiovascular activity and physical exertion and attempt to say how bad it is? Look at the 360, Ps3, or any OTHER console, because the Wii is a step in the right direction for games. Several YMCAs are using it as the basis for training programs. Nursing homes are using it to allow large groups of people to "bowl" without actually go to the lanes and risk serious injury.

    Point blank, I feel what you said about how the Wii increases laziness is wrong, and there is substantial evidence to show that playing video games offers a number of benefits. Plus, you know, it's fun. And you can have fun with your alcohol. But you should know that it's unhealthy, has a number of dangerous side-effects, and can lead to laziness, alcoholism, and death.
    cheese and rice.

    enjoy supporting part of what is making this country fat and stupid...

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    cheese and rice.

    enjoy supporting part of what is making this country fat and stupid...
    Have another beer there. While you're at it, go sit at a card table too, since that's definitely helping this country get in shape. Then maybe you can play some poker online or even watch it on TV. Both undoubtedly sharpen a person's mental acuity, right? Have fun supporting activities that are helping this country drink itself to death and plunge itself into gambling and credit debt.

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    cheese and rice.

    enjoy supporting part of what is making this country fat and stupid...
    Bull .

    Personal choice is what is making this country fat and stupid.

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    Bull .

    Personal choice is what is making this country fat and stupid.
    how dare you hold people accountable for what they put into themselves!

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    Bull .

    Personal choice is what is making this country fat and stupid.
    yeah, people choosing to sit in front of the t.v. and play video games for hours instead of something more productive.

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    yeah, people choosing to sit in front of the t.v. and play video games for hours instead of something more productive.
    Yeah, that's it. Because hundreds of thousands of people sitting for 3 days or a week straight at a poker table or slot machine, getting almost no sleep, drinking little else but beer/alcohol and eating casino food is the gateway to ultimate health. But you're right. It's ONLY video games that are at fault.

    My only thought is that I'm wondering if you had to get on the roof of your house to climb onto horse you're riding so highly.

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    Yeah, that's it. Because hundreds of thousands of people sitting for 3 days or a week straight at a poker table or slot machine, getting almost no sleep, drinking little else but beer/alcohol and eating casino food is the gateway to ultimate health. But you're right. It's ONLY video games that are at fault.

    My only thought is that I'm wondering if you had to get on the roof of your house to climb onto horse you're riding so highly.
    i am talking about video games, not other issues. btw, you sure do like to assume a lot.

    ...i live in a tipi, moving around from time to time living off the land.

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    i am talking about video games, not other issues. btw, you sure do like to assume a lot.

    ...i live in a tipi, moving around from time to time living off the land.
    You brought an uninformed generalized opinion to a thread about someone wanting to find a game system. You then spoke out against such system and felt the need to state how pointless it was, and I'm simply responding to that. If you can't handle criticism, perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to hop into a thread and voice your objections to what other individuals choose to do with their recreational time.

    I didn't go into a "beer and gambling" thread and talk about how stupid or pointless it is, let alone blaming such activities solely for the decay of society as we know it. But if I did, I would certainly not expect people to laud my sentiment.

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    You brought an uninformed generalized opinion to a thread about someone wanting to find a game system. You then spoke out against such system and felt the need to state how pointless it was, and I'm simply responding to that. If you can't handle criticism, perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to hop into a thread and voice your objections to what other individuals choose to do with their recreational time.

    I didn't go into a "beer and gambling" thread and talk about how stupid or pointless it is, let alone blaming such activities solely for the decay of society as we know it. But if I did, I would certainly not expect people to laud my sentiment.
    i don't see whats so uninformed about video games helping promote a sedentary lifestyle. not to mention, probably lessening interpersonal skills as well as isolating ones self in a technological bubble.

    as technology improves the more distant we become...

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    i don't see whats so uninformed about video games helping promote a sedentary lifestyle. not to mention, probably lessening interpersonal skills as well as isolating ones self in a technological bubble.

    as technology improves the more distant we become...
    yeah that whole email and internet thing is really pushing people across the world further apart.

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    yeah that whole email and internet thing is really pushing people across the world further apart.
    i think its quite clear what i was talking about.

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    i think its quite clear what i was talking about.
    the nature of a sophism is quite the opposite.

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    the nature of a sophism is quite the opposite.

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    i think its quite clear what i was talking about.
    I think it's quite clear that you don't have the slightest understanding of what you're attempting to discuss. Would you like me to list research citing the numerous benefits of playing video games? I can. But I'm not sure that you would survive the fall from that 50 foot horse you're riding. Of course, you probably feel it's powerful enough to just leap right over science, because, "I'm right, damnit!" obviously suffices nicely in your world.

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    Where in the world can I find one?! I've been looking everywhere! I thought they'd be easier to find after the holidays but nope. Please someone tell me where I can pick one up!

    What will you give me if I can get you one?

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    What will you give me if I can get you one?
    How YOU doiiin?

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    Havoc, stop flirting with me. Come on man!!

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