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Maybe. I wouldnt read into Frank Luntz's focus group crap too much though.
If that's truly the case than Holt's right for sure
Maybe. I wouldnt read into Frank Luntz's focus group crap too much though.
No question I agree with that as well.said quit subsidizing it, and it will stop. He said if you quit giving them free education, free healthcare, and essentially amnesty you will stop illegal immigration. He's the only one who said that.
Sorry to see that you have such little faith in the american people.Actually, yes
Yeah that was quite funny, although I liked Huckabee's line better.Yeah, not even close.
But his remark about introducing the Iranian boat squad to virgins in the afterlife was priceless.
Honestly, I have absolutely zero idea as to who won this.
Thompson to me seemed like he didn't care.
Paul came off as a Fox Mulder with a good economic and immigration plan.
Guliani is a person, so I hope he goes away.
Romney is a politician plain and simple, go away as well.
McCain MIGHT take the lead, but, man hes been way too liberal and socialist on alot of issues...
My only rip on Ron Paul was his reaction to Brit Hume's calling him on the carpet.
It just made him look stupid.
Well according to the Text message vote, Paul won handily.
I guess other than doing a sammy sosa and losing his hearing rapidly, he did well.
Shame Thompson doesn't care, hes one hilarious guy
He also exudes a very high intelligence.
35% for Ron Paul
18 and 18 for Huckabee and Thompson
Of course that could be the Ron Paulites texting a crap load in.
Like he's said before, its not about him...its about the message.
On the text poll, you can only text once it won't let you text multiple times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mffpkCH-PJw oh and here's where Ron won this thing, they cut it out on the replay.
I can only hope that when Ron Paul drops out of the race that these crazed Ron Paul supporters are able to recognize that they need help and can get some kind of deprogramming to counter the cult-like brainwashing they've received, otherwise I suspect there might be another Jonestown incident in the near future.
Are you kidding? The pool of ghost writers to Ron Paul's newsletter is going to skyrocket.
After researching him a little more late into the night, considering his positions, and considering alot of other things.
I think my vote goes to Ron Paul.
His points about why sweeden and norway are never attacked are spot on.
His points on the economy are spot on.
Everything that I read about him matches up with what I believe in.
I do though question the sanity of the people who support him that also think 9/11 was an "inside job"
So my support check will be heading out today to one Ron Paul.
Too bad he aint got a shot in at winning
More like he knows he will not win so he is actually telling the TRUTH. All these goons said the same lame cliche bull about the economy but Paul actually addressed the TRUTH.
Yeah he is too much of an isolationist but he has good economic ideas. Good as in Americans need to quit being pussies and use their savings to get through the ty times.
It's so obvious the fox mediators are trying to get Paul out yet he made them look like the biased ignorant fools that they are.
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For ONCE, Thompson actually had some fire I thought.
And here i thought the same thing about people that support those other candidates. Thanks for straightening me out.
yeah i watched the un edited version for the first time and I think if I had to vote it would goFor ONCE, Thompson actually had some fire I thought.
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After reading more on him, and then speaking to some elders and my old political science professor through text, I think Ron Paul is fantastic.
Problem is, he doesn't have the "look"
Thats not me, thats the rest of America that would compare Barack and him.
Unfortunately, Paul might run as an independant, and that would just raise the chances, if she gets the nomination, of Hillary becoming president.
(shivers)
I'm surprised you'd vote for Ron Paul considering he is anti-war and his ratings dropped like Bush's during his response to the other candidates being "war hungry".
Ron Paul is an idiot.
HE has alluded to 911 being an inside job. WHat a . I hope he goes down.
People should listen to T Park's opinions regarding Presidential candidates, not because he's necessarily well-informed or that he has well-developed ideas, but rather because there are many, many more voters like him than any other kind.
To wit: regarding Paul, T Park probably only knows about him because 1) this is Texas, and 2) the Victoria brigade and others in this forum have been pushing him. Elsewhere, all that people know about him is that the media says he is a crank. Many lower-to-middle-class white males would identify with John Birchers if they knew what a John Bircher was.
Regarding Obama: Barack easily would be the most liberal President since FDR, and is probably the most pro-abortion Presidential candidate ever to mount a serious campaign. In all likelihood, T Park shares little to nothing in his political views with Obama, yet he ranks him highly, because Barack's rhetorical power is so great.
Yeah, but Tpork's dream ticket would consist of Dave Thomas and Dr. Atkins.
I don't feel that way about Barack. There is a difference between being pro-choice and pro-abortion. But that is a different arguement. I'm pro-choice but anti-abortion. Just like I don't own a gun but won't take another person's right to own one away either.
The liberal and conservative crap gets in the way of many people's thinking. Just look at the republican candidates. You can't lable them all as conservatives 'cause it just ain't so.
That's cool. Kind of like "i'm anti hitler, but pro hitler, i just wont tell them germans what to do with their jews."
That has to be the most dishonest intellectual cowardice ever created.
Why do you think abortion is bad, but think it's okay for others to practice it?
Is it because killing a fetus is equivalent to not paying a toll road?
Is that how trivial it is.
I bet there were alot of anti slavery pro slavery people in the 1800's.
Sure glad those type didn't make history.
Barack isn't just pro-choice. His record in Illinois and in the U.S. Senate has been to expand what is permissible under the au es of abortion; for example, he struck down a bill that would have made it illegal to kill fully-born babies who survived attempts at partial-birth abortion. He also opposed a bill that would have made it explicitly illegal to abandon full-term babies with Down's Syndrome to die after being born.
No he didn't. Show me where he did that.
You are free to feel that way. I just don't agree.
I didn't say I think it's okay for other to practice it. I hate abortion but the fact is it il legal and while I am against it I cannot force a woman to give birth against her will. I've marched in pro-life marches but I'm also for a woman's right to chose. It is really quite simple and not hard to understand. At least not for me.
You just don't get it and I don't want to hijack this thread.
Go on with your bad self.
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