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Wow, after reading those two articles...it appears that Dwight is a fluke OFF the court as well. He can't even stay grounded in his beliefs.
Christians are the most degenerate. I know cause I am one
Wow, after reading those two articles...it appears that Dwight is a fluke OFF the court as well. He can't even stay grounded in his beliefs.
I shouldn't have said their comments were ridiculous. That was unnecessary.
Sorry guys.
Dwight Howard being a Christian is cool to me in the same way it would be cool if we had the same alma mater; we have something in common.
SpursDynasty seriously shut the up, it's not even slightly amusing anymore. You act like Dwight is the only 22 year old on Earth who's had sex. I'm sure you have even had sex before marriage, even as lame as you are. Just face it that Dwight Howard is a beast and a superstar in this league for years to come. He's already more rich and successful than you will ever be, so just stop with the nonsense.
Dwight is just ting on haters like Jeffdowns that hes supposed to on, no surprises there.
I bet if Jeff walked into a club with Dwight Howard and the girls were all over him he wouldn't think Dwight was such a bad guy
Pride cometh before a fall.
what's the big deal? so Dwight had sex with a woman out of wedlock and had a child. it happens to everyday people. its not as if he won't be able to support the child anyway. at least we know he ain't gay.
good articles, ploto.
And they were. However, I feel you were goading people, Christians in particular, by posting such a provocative le to the thread. You wanted that kind of response, and you got it. It smacks of you just being happy that you can knock someone off their horse because they are a Christian.
If you were genuinely offended or upset by what I said, I apologize. It was uncouth and brash. I am simply fed up with situations like this, where people just seem to want to march around with signs that say, "HA HA! The Christian is human and screwed up!"
It gets old, and you aren't telling us anything we didn't know already.
So he screwed up. We've covered this. So if you get busted for drinking and driving, does it make you a hypocrite to tell your children that they shouldn't do that?Never said I knew the things he faced nor how I would react if in the same situation. I do know that he had propped himself up as a devout Christian who would be a role model for younger Christians, that he scolded NBA players for their profanity and promiscuous lifestyles, and that he vowed that he would remain a virgin until he was married.
[quote]I don't say he shouldn't be able to make mistakes. I don't say he shouldn't be forgiven by anyone he wants forgiveness from. I just point out his hypocrisy. That's all.
The le of this thread is an obvious lead-in to how you feel about the situation. Don't try to act disinterested and say you didn't post with smug satisfaction, because it's very apparent that it's exactly how you want to be in this situation. To repeat: Everyone I know is a hypocrite. Everyone I know is (relatively) weak in the grand scheme of things. It's amazing that after studying psychology, you realize how fragile the human ego is. Just like the post you made to initiate this thread got under my skin, despite the fact that's just a thread on an internet chat board for sports.Never called it de able. Nor did I personally have a very negative reaction to it. I only stated that I don't like hypocrisy, especially from someone who makes himself appear like he's above others or beyond reproach.
Take it however you want to take it.
God will forgive Dwight Howard if he is contrite, repents, and takes responsibility for the consequences of his actions.
The world mocks and scorns Dwight Howard because it obeys its master.
Now it probably was not the wisest thing for an 18-year-old to proclaim himself ready to win the NBA for Christ back in 2004, since in his sheltered Christian high school life he had no idea of the gauntlet of temptation he was about to go through, even before he was nearly mature enough to handle it. But 18-year-olds can be foolish and impetuous like that. Thank God there is grace.
David Robinson was a target too. He was able to avoid such a public embarrassment like Howard's in part because he became committed to his faith and outspoken about it well after having started in the NBA, and after having found the hedonistic NBA lifestyle unfulfilling. Even so, there were many, many people eager to see him fall so they could pounce on him the way they are pouncing on Dwight Howard now.
Is it disappointing to see him fall? Yeah. Is there a contrast between his eagerness to present himself so publicly as a good Christian young man, and his insistence upon his own privacy (as opposed to the privacy which the mother and child obviously deserve) when he screws up? Indeed. He is just a man. But if you take this as an opportunity to cackle gleefully and devour this man, then you are doing the work of the demons. Perhaps that is your goal.
There is no reason Dwight Howard cannot, after having stumbled and being humbled, get back up and continue to try to live out his faith, if he is in fact repentant.
Well, then why did you ask how you were being judgmental if you agree you made comments that were judgmental? Well?
I'm a Christian. I was raised in a strict Roman Catholic home. I went to Catholic private school for 12 years. It's not about knocking a "Christian" off their horse. It's about knocking exposing a hypocrite.
This isn't about Dwight Howard being Christian. It's about him emphasizing the fact that he was going to avoid the temptations of the NBA lifestyle and be a devout Christian. He even SPECIFICALLY vowed he would be a virgin until he was married. First of all, I don't think it's a big deal anyway. I was just sharing an article about it. And, secondly, it's only a bigger deal than any other person who would have done the same thing because Dwight Howard himself made it a big deal all these years about being a devout Christian, living a clean Christian lifestyle, remaining a virgin until marriage, AND THE FACT that he's in the public eye. He opened himself up to this type of scrutiny, this type of criticism. It's on him as a hypocrite, not a Christian. You need to learn how to differentiate that.
I was never offended by anything in this thread. I don't give a . I was sharing a story about an NBA player on an NBA forum. I pointed out his hypocrisy. After that, I don't really care. Again, it wasn't about his Christian faith. It was about him TALKING about his Christian faith so much, pushing his faith and values on everybody, trying to change the NBA for Christ, and then being a hypocrite. It's about that, not specifically him being a Christian.If you were genuinely offended or upset by what I said, I apologize. It was uncouth and brash. I am simply fed up with situations like this, where people just seem to want to march around with signs that say, "HA HA! The Christian is human and screwed up!"
Simple solution. Ignore the thread and don't respond. I made the thread. You keep wanting to shake your head at me for starting the thread or people criticizing Dwight Howard, well stop bumping the thread up with your posts. It's more of a big deal because you keep responding with your defense of a guy who probably isn't even nearly as upset as you are with people criticizing him for what he did.It gets old, and you aren't telling us anything we didn't know already.
Your point is irrelevant. He was preaching about not having premarital and casual sex BEFORE this, not AFTER this incident. There's a difference. Don't preach it to others then not follow through with it yourself especially when you make a big deal about it. It's not like he made the mistake and then started telling people about the lessons he learned from his mistakes. He preached first, then did exactly what he preached against. If he never ever said anything about being such a devout Christian and changing the NBA for Christ and remaining a virgin until marriage, this thread would not exist. But, he did, and he has ever since before he was drafted. It would be more like a judge who sentences drunk drivers to prison and then that judge is caught drunk driving. The hypocrisy is what I'm criticizing, not the act, not the fact that he's Christian.So he screwed up. We've covered this. So if you get busted for drinking and driving, does it make you a hypocrite to tell your children that they shouldn't do that?
And, now you're a mind-reader. You don't know what the I felt when I posted this thread. Nor do you know what level of sarcasm was involved. I don't care what you think my intent or feelings were when I made the le of my thread and this thread in general. What is apparent to you was actually in reality inaccurate.The le of this thread is an obvious lead-in to how you feel about the situation. Don't try to act disinterested and say you didn't post with smug satisfaction, because it's very apparent that it's exactly how you want to be in this situation. To repeat: Everyone I know is a hypocrite. Everyone I know is (relatively) weak in the grand scheme of things. It's amazing that after studying psychology, you realize how fragile the human ego is. Just like the post you made to initiate this thread got under my skin, despite the fact that's just a thread on an internet chat board for sports.
another bas child and another soon to be greedy golddiggin single mother. This cancels out most of the good he has done
"beat the pussy up, beat the pussy up"
Religion and sex debates aside,on the court Howard is a beast and will be the best big man in the league in a few years time.
are those boobs fake or real? no wonder cheerleaders make very little because they could hit the lottery, that kid gonna net her ass about 50 million
OH Please - anyone can be excited about anything. And how do you know that he's taking responsibility for the child? Probably paying a few bucks a year for the mother to take care of the baby but probably not spending a whole lot of quality time or consistent time with the child. I'll take an individual with the character of a Tim Duncan any day. He marries the future mom of his children and actually builds a committed LIFE with her.
you know the told him "yea im on the pill" while $$$ lit up in her eyes and the beginning of pink floyd- money started goin off in the background
Let's all pray to our Christian God that they're real. Pray that they are firm and as lovely to squeeze as they are to look at. Oh God please let them be real. I devote my life to you that they are real.
The NBA:
Where getting pussy happens.
JamStone owns in this thread
He has a hard time staying gounded on the floor as well
http://youtube.com/watch?v=MI2rLv8Hkl4
is Jamstone JoeJam from the Pistons.com message boards anyone know?
who are you on p.com?
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