What do they have to lose besides another shot at the championship in an even year? And I mean that in a good way.
I see him as insurance..."you be the glue Jacque, I'll be the bailing wire". I see him as a 2 guard when they go small. He can bring energy or make a play in small spurts and he can shoot the 3 at a decent rate. The thing I don't care for is he's not a defender, he's a gambler.
Why did we get rid of Scola for nothing?!?!?!
Quote from Stoudamire after being demoted ...
Maybe Stoudamire has grown up over the years and now is willing to come to San Antonio and carve out a niche on the team. Who knows? I'll give him the benefit of the doubt since he could have gone to Phoenix or Boston and be talked about on ESPN for the next month. Nobody will care about him if he signs with the Spurs.The Grizzlies have embarked on a youth movement, meaning Stoudamire isn't likely to return to the active roster anytime soon unless Conley or Lowery suffers an injury.
Stoudamire, 34, has accepted the demotion gracefully and pledged to avoid controversy.
"I have to do my job and be a soldier around here, and try to help in different ways rather than on the floor," Stoudamire said. "The wrong thing to do right now is not work. You've got to keep working and stay professional through all of this."
Oh and he's forgiven for his AJ blasts of years past. That was a long time ago and he said that because he wanted to come to San Antonio ... even way back then. Plus that blast gave the Spurs even more fuel on their first le run.
I'll take anyone that can shoot at a consistently decent rate. Welcome aboard Damon!
Maybe Tony Parker needs rest for 2-3 weeks to get healthy. And to sit him down, you need another PG on this team.
So what's so bad about doing what you need to do be able to rest a guy who is going to be vital in the playoffs?
If Stoudamire disrupts things or is useless after filling in for Parker (if indeed that's the plan) then you can just cut him.
I don't even like Damon, but I don't see how this can be a bad thing, if Parker needs rest.
Nicely done.
Well put. Stoudamire would be a low-risk guy who might be able to spread the court.
I thought the Spurs would sign someone like Mike Wilks or Andre Barrett to round off the team. I'll take Stoudamire instead. If he's fine with whatever role he gets, this could turn out to be a very good signing.
Using him in a Steve Kerr role when defenses are collapsing in the middle could work. Maybe some of that Arizona magic can transfer.
I'm still not sure whether I like this move .... but I can imagine situations in which this move helps the team.
Chump, you endorsed Stoudamire earlier today, while timvp trashed him.
Did you two swap sides on this issue?
The bottom line whether you believe me or not that he's better than Vaughn is that Stoudamire will provide much-needed relief in some form for Parker.
Um.
I also thought that Ward and NVE were pretty shrewd moves at the time.
Fvck.
Stoudamire still sucks. But Stoudamire > Nobody if the Spurs need to rest Parker. And Anybody > Vaughn in terms of spreading the floor.
I don't like this move but I did like the NVE and Ward moves. So maybe that's a good sign.
Let's hope.
I will bet that Stoudamire supplants Vaughn in the rotation.
I'm not sure if he's better overall than Vaughn for this team, but the Spurs need to rest Parker so trying out Damon (or anyone else really) is fine for now.
"for this team"
Well put.
We've seen players not fit in here and thrive elsewhere.
It takes time and discipline to learn the system and play defense.
In the words of Mighty Mouse:
DAYUM!!
I was huge on Ward and Van Exel when they came so i'm reserving any conclusions until he gets here and plays a few games. The only thing is that it's been tough to watch Tony not have as much explosiveness lately so this really can't hurt.
Beno.More likely, Beno Udrih saying "I told you so."
He had thousands of chances. Get the off it.
That being said I don't like this move. I think adding a PG in January is gonna be a cause hes gonna have to learn on the fly.
I'll keep my mind open on this one.
The one game I remember Stoudamire from though was the second game of the year, and dropping 20 and pretty much trying to will the Grizzlies to win that game.
This is how I see it: Spurs will play better in the 2nd half, with Damon not seeing much minutes.
Either because Pop won't trust him or his D, or either to mess with our opponents' heads.
I agree with the general notion that I see no reason for Stoudamire to make this move over the chance to play with Boston or Phoenix or Dallas unless there are facts that we don't presently know and those facts suggest that Damon has some sort of guarantee of playing time here. I get that he has stated a desire to play for a Texas club, but at the moment, Dallas would seem like a much more logical landing place from Damon's standpoint unless, again, there's more than we know.
I'm tepid on the move if only because my enthusiasm for the Nick Van Exel move got washed away by wave after wave of cold reality. Damon might be more than NVE, but unlike Nick, Damon has never shown himself to be a guy who comes up big in clutch moments or big games. In Portland's 2 best playoff runs (1999 and 2000) Damon's scoring averages dropped by 2.4 and 3.6 ppg from his regular season numbers and his assists per game dropped in both runs as he shot 38% and 42% from the floor. To the extent that he's a scorer at all, he's a volume scorer who has never shot the ball well for an extended period of time -- in 13 NBA seasons, he's finished at or under 40% from the floor in 9 different seasons, including each of the last 5 seasons. I have my doubts about how well a guy who needs lots of shots to score will fit with the Spurs. He also hasn't been particularly durable in the last few years, which is another problem.
My hunch, frankly, is that there's something more moving here; whether that's a trade or shelving Parker for a while or something else, this move is curious at best in my mind. Damon is about as far removed from a Pop player as I can imagine. Not too long ago, his adjusted +/- number was about the worst among NBA point guards. He's not an efficient offensive player. He's never been renowned for his defense. And he's got a history of character problems, to say nothing of his proclivity for offering too much talk and relatively little action. Given all of those seeming truths, I can't figure out why this move makes sense for the Spurs unless: (1) they're just plain desperate; or (2) there's something much more significant going on behind the scenes.
If this comes to pass, I'll be very interested to see what happens next.
Well said, FWD. I want to take it at face value and believe Stoudamire is just another veteran that wants to jump on board for the ride who the Spurs will accept with open arms due to his outside shooting. However, that's a tough concept to swallow knowing all the other factors that have been discussed.
As you said, we'll see what happens next. If Parker has surgery or will be shut down for a month or two ... then suddenly this move makes a lot more sense. Status quo would leave me scratching my head.
I'm not that sure that this signing is only related to Parker's injury.
Spurs tried to sign Troy Hudson this summer. Hudson and Stoudamire are kinda similar players.
It seems that Pop want to have a scoring guard to bring a little craziness.
Don't believe the hype.
Great point Bruno.
I hope Demon can contribute, but I'm just not convinced he can...
If Pop is looking for a veteran point who can score, the more sensible move to me is seeking a deal for Sam Cassell, who looks like Shaq in terms of offensive efficiency when compared with Stoudamire and looks like Jordan in terms of clutch play when compared with Stoudamire.
Cassell could clearly make a difference to a team thinking championship; Stoudamire is a name without a lot of numbers behind it and is an upgrade only to a team in a dire situation at the point.
Maybe the Spurs have explored that possibility and come up only with dead ends on that front and need to make a move now. We'll see, I suppose. Having another 30 minutes or so to think about this one, I don't get it from the perspective of either party to the deal without there being something more going on.
Yeah, it's pretty ing difficult to comprehend the Spurs offense for a PG...
1. Dribble ball up court
2. Pass to Duncan
3. Stand behind three point line
4. Shoot if passed to.
That takes years to figure out.
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