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    portland will be a monster

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    On Portland, I honestly don't think they'd do as bad on this deal as some see it. Yes, they would get rid of a bunch of their role players in the process, but you have to look at what they'd get back now and what they'd be getting in the future. Let me 'splain....

    While I like Jarrett Jack, he has been fairly solid but mostly unspectacular for this team. That lands most young PGs somewhere between $5-7M a year in this league nowadays. And if I asked, would you rather have one or two guys making $5-7M a piece (like they have in Seattle) or one kid with great potential making enough to be your no-kidding starting PG, I think most would agree that the latter is the preferred choice.

    Then you have to look at the other pieces they would give up. Frye's role on this team was decided when Aldridge stepped out and had a monster year....he needs a change of scenery. And Outlaw, while he improved his jumpshot out to 18ft, is still a superskinny non-rebounding combo forward with his main skillset still being his athleticism.

    Now you have to look at what's coming to the Blazers in the future. They've gpt Oden coming back next year to an already-crowded frontcourt...keep in mind they still have McRoberts on the bench and Joel Freeland overseas. Then in the backcourt and on the wings they have Sergio Rodriguez, an emerging Martell Webster, and Rudy Fernandez who will most likely be here next year.

    Bottom line: They have to make some serious roster decisions at one point or another and if they can get back a potential star PG in the process versus the PG-by-committee approach, I think they do well.
    Great post.

    Blazers do okay for the reasons you stipulated, Mavs get a very old Kidd who gets one last shot at a ring, and the Nets get a bunch of possibles and cross their fingers that one emerges ASAP.

    Personally, I hope it happens. This might improve Dallas in some ways but kills them in others, and overall I'm less scared of them if they make this trade... in fact, against a clicking Spurs, they wouldn't scare me at all. Question is, will the Spurs click again this season... (come on SPAM!)

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    The Mavs would be CRAZY to do this trade, I'm sorry but I think J-Kidd SUCkS, he shoots 36% from the field and 33% from 3, no show on defense and is highly turnover-prone. The people who love to hype him up are those a$$holes on espn. He needs the mavs more than the mavs need him, and he also is a QUITTER AND A LOSER, how come he always ends up leaving his teams for some bad reason? If he was really a leader like espn hypes him up to be why can't he motivate vince carter and the rest of the nets? I would take Sam Cassell any day and I don't care what anybody thinks.

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    bad trade for portland.

    if stack becomes a free agent, should we sign him?

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    Nets would have 5 coming in and three going out. Wouldn't they have to cut someone lose in some way?

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    dude the quote in your sig is freakin raw.

    Thanks. I think someone else on here has it too. Just a great quote and very true. Its all about the hardware.

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    lol @ your signature
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    Kidd in Dallas doesn't bother me if they're going to send half their scoring away for him. Kidd may still be one of the best point guards in the league, but age is bound to catch up with him in the next couple years.

    Apparently Dallas didn't learn anything from watching Miami sell out for a championship.

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    Any trade that involves sending Devin Harris anywhere is stupid. He is just starting to come into his own. He has a nice 10 year career in front of him and is getting good enough to be the starting point gaurd on a Championship team.

    I like Jason Kidd's game. He is the absolute King of the Triple Double (3rd all time) but he only has a few years left in him if that.

    And to echo what another poster stated, this deal would screw up the Mavs Chemistry.

    Stack, George, Barrea and Ager can be spared, but not the rest.

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    I think he improves Dallas, but I still don't think that will help them win it all.

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    Bad News ? Nah, I'm allright with it. Dallas gets a great PG but one that Tony has dealt with in the past. Jason Kidd has had trouble guarding Tony while Devin Harris has had some great games against him.

    They also lose Stackhouse. He gave them a good punch off the bench. Still, its a uva deal for the Mavs. I'm just not sure it helps them beat the Spurs.

    Kidd, Nowitzki, Howard and Terry will make up the core.
    Exactly what I was thinking. Kidd may be a better player overall that Dallas is getting, but in terms of matching up to the Spurs, they now match up a lot worse from their perspective. Devin Harris is a much tougher player for the Spurs to guard than Kidd. And Stackhouse, as others have pointed out, has been pretty impressive against the SPurs.

    I think this trade would make the Mavs a much slower, more defensively minded team, which usually means good things for the Spurs. It's the Mavs explosiveness and athleticism that has made them a tough match up.

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    Guess the Mavs organization agrees with thispego's assertion that Devin Harris is, in fact, a scrub.

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