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    stupid stupid stupid national teams
    yeah, except when the world is over and aliens come to the planet. they will be checking the olympic championships before NBA championships

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    The French doctors are mostly too blame, but Pop should have yanked him a couple weeks ago.

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    Who to blame?

    Parker himself. Jeez doctors are doctors but you need to know your body as well.


    F that I say. Now the important thoing is to give parker as much rest as possible. Good we have ASBreak. But still what is with his heal? Is it some kind of mistery once again? We will know in March if this leg still bothers him and the ankle will be fine. Then we can kiss O'Brian good night

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    stupid stupid stupid national teams
    God you're a dope. If Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili were Americans the Spurs would've never had a chance to draft either one because they'd have been lottery picks.

    Guys are from other places and they have pride in their homelands and want to represent their people. Get over yourselves you goddamn xenophobes.

    American fans get pretty angry when U.S. stars don't want to play for the Olympic team for whatever reason and Americans don't even care about the Olympics too much. Imagine what kind of pressure the foreign guys are under to play for countries who do give a .

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    So you don't think he sat out for anything related to his ankle? That was the whole point. NBA players don't skip training camp and preseason to lift weights. Especially young NBA players.
    Tony's never been diligent in the weight room. I think with Tony I have to pay attention more to him than the other starters because he's a little bit of a laissez-faire guy. Whether that's being French or not, I'm not sure.
    I don't know if it's his background basketball-wise, but he needs a little bit more attention from me than most other people do as far as preparation for games and seasons and that kind of thing.

    So you want to blame the Spurs doctors but hold the French doctors 100% innocent even though the French doctors said the injury was so minor that Parker didn't even need to be re-examined?

    I don't want to blame Spurs' doctors. But if a mistake has been made with Parker injury in August, you had to blame Spurs' doctors and/or Parker for it.

    French NT Doctors can't be responsible for something because it was Spurs' doctor who were in charge of this injury.
    It's just unreal to blame French NT doctors for not having treated well Parker's injury while Parker has been treated by Spurs' doctors.
    Let's hope you will realize the absurdity of what you are saying.

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    I blame Parker for being a stupid MFer, not resting his body, and now jeoporadizing the Spurs' year and considerable revenue for the team ownership who's paying him to play. I wonder if he'll continue to be a stupid MFer and continue to wear out and risk his body going forward. I don't blame the French team who I don't expect to give a rat's ass about his welfare but only have the self interest of winning at all cost, practicing him hard, playing him long minutes even if he's injured and his health is at risk

    Spurs' and Pop would have put Parker on ice for a long time after the injury this summer. Unfortunately they bowed to appeasing the stupid MFer who doesn't know what's good for himself. The French team will use him up, they don't give a .

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    I agree I wish Parker took care of this issue about a month ago. For some reason I think he fought through it for the sake of making the All-Star team as selfish as that may sound, but also to help the team get out of a funk. I think his health is extremely vital to our team's success, even if he comes back in March so be it. Give us the 6th seed,7th seed or 8th seed. If we are healthy we have a very good chance at repeating even without homecourt advantage for any series.

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    at the end of the day, there is blame for all parties- french nt, spurs coaching staff, and parker himself.

    but the people ranting on against parker and the french need to get a grip- if the spurs "are the ones who pay his salary", then why didnt they sit him down when it was their choice? shouldnt they protect their investment (and our le hopes)? you cant give them a free pass for playing parker hurt (and even if parker didnt say anything, wasnt it obvious to almost all of us that he was struggling physically?)

    whats done is done, all we can do now is monitor his recovery and the teams performance while he is out.

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    You can bet that the next time a Spurs players is playing for his national team and gets injured in preparation or compe on the Spurs aren't going to give him a chance to make a bad decision, they're going to shut him down. Many players' judgement is too cloudy by their own stupidity, feelings of pressure to not let teammates or country down to do what's good for them. Parker and Garbajosa are prime examples.

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    Has this been posted here:
    "Parker has an chronic inflammation in his left ankle, the result of a bone rubbing against the ligaments. He received anti-inflammatory shots on Thursday and Popovich is adamant that Parker rest for at least three weeks. The coach sounded as if he were ready to change the access codes to the practice facility if that's what it takes to keep Parker off the court." http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ge=dime-080201

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    I don't want to blame Spurs' doctors. But if a mistake has been made with Parker injury in August, you had to blame Spurs' doctors and/or Parker for it.

    French NT Doctors can't be responsible for something because it was Spurs' doctor who were in charge of this injury.
    It's just unreal to blame French NT doctors for not having treated well Parker's injury while Parker has been treated by Spurs' doctors.
    Let's hope you will realize the absurdity of what you are saying.
    The French NT gave parker an ultimatum. "play on your hurt ankle or don't ever play for us again". Yes, Tony should have swallowed his pride and not continued playing but he's young and stupid and it was a very Selfish move on the part of the French NT to do that to Parker.

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    God you're a dope. If Tony Parker and Manu Ginobili were Americans the Spurs would've never had a chance to draft either one because they'd have been lottery picks.

    Guys are from other places and they have pride in their homelands and want to represent their people. Get over yourselves you goddamn xenophobes.

    American fans get pretty angry when U.S. stars don't want to play for the Olympic team for whatever reason and Americans don't even care about the Olympics too much. Imagine what kind of pressure the foreign guys are under to play for countries who do give a .
    Tony and Manu would have been lottery picks if they were Americans? I wonder what kind of flawless logic brought you to this conclusion.

    So guys can't represent their homelands and their people while making millions playing over here? So international players play for their NT's because they feel pressured into it? something tells me you don't know about . God you're a dope

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    If Manu was American, although Argentina is also in America, have been playing every year since 2000 with the Spurs, and who know what happen

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    Tony and Manu would have been lottery picks if they were Americans? I wonder what kind of flawless logic brought you to this conclusion.
    They'd have been known commodities, obviously. The whole reason they were picked so low was because the NBA hadn't done much legwork in international scouting yet at that point. If Manu went to UCLA and Tony went to Florida, I think some scouts would've seen them...

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    I think this is also about resting his mind, not just his body. I feel bad he can not play, but he kind of brought this on himself. What good is he, if he's not healthy.

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    The French NT gave parker an ultimatum. "play on your hurt ankle or don't ever play for us again".
    First, what you said is jut wrong. French NT never gave an ultimatum to Parker or Spurs. French NT coach just said that if Parker leave the team for the whole summer after a minor injury it won't be able to have NBA players with NT because they will left the team for the whole summer at the first minor injury. It wasn't an ultimatum at all, French NT coach was just stating facts.

    Second, the idea of the French NT giving an ultimatum to Parker or Spurs is laughable. You obviously have no clue of what are the relationship between French NT, Spurs and Parker. French NT hasn't at all the power to give an ultimatum or to put some kind of pressure on Spurs or Parker.

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    Second, the idea of the French NT giving an ultimatum to Parker or Spurs is laughable. You obviously have no clue of what are the relationship between French NT, Spurs and Parker. French NT hasn't at all the power to give an ultimatum or to put some kind of pressure on Spurs or Parker.
    That's not entirely true. The French NT has no power or influence over the Spurs, but they do control who plays for them and seem to have some degree of influence or control over Parker since Parker obviously wants to play for his country. I don't think it was as dramatic as has been stated, with the French NT giving an ultimatum, but more than likely they put some pressure on Parker to cover their best interests. IMO, you can't blame them for that since they are looking after their own personal interests first. This lies with Parker, who had to prioritize the importance to him of playing for his country with the risk of not being healthy and available for his employer. Evidently playing for his country is important enough for him to take the risk on the ankle. That's his decision.

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    That's his decision.
    This time. Not next time.

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    So you want to blame the Spurs doctors but hold the French doctors 100% innocent even though the French doctors said the injury was so minor that Parker didn't even need to be re-examined?

    So the French health-care system doesn't work!?!?!? Paging Michael Moore...

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    That's not entirely true. The French NT has no power or influence over the Spurs, but they do control who plays for them and seem to have some degree of influence or control over Parker since Parker obviously wants to play for his country.
    What you said could be true for another player but not for Parker.
    French NT needs more Parker than Parker needs French NT.
    Without Parker, French NT will suck even more and lost a lot of media coverage. Their biggest fear is that he turns them down. They can't take the risk of losing him by making some pressure on him.

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    What you said could be true for another player but not for Parker.
    French NT needs more Parker than Parker needs French NT.
    Without Parker, French NT will suck even more and lost a lot of media coverage. Their biggest fear is that he turns them down. They can't take the risk of losing him by making some pressure on him.
    I don't think they would put any combative or "ultimatum" type pressure on him, but I'm sure they are quick to remind him how they were there for him during his early development and all they've done for him. I also think that Parker feels an alliance towards them for this reason, which any honorable person would. Like I said, it's perfectly understandable that they would do whatever possible to have him play for them as any one of us would probably do the same in that situation. The Spurs have an agenda to have Parker as healthy as possible to play for them, the French NT have an agenda to do whatever possible to get Parker on the court for them, and it's up to Parker to make the decisions regarding his career and future. It does seem like he has been running himself a bit ragged in the last few years, and his body is letting him know about it now. It will be interesting to see what he does going forward, and if he makes a similar decision as Ginobili to put his paid professional team a bit ahead of the NT for his own personal health and longevity.

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    the French NT have an agenda to do whatever possible to get Parker on the court for them
    I quite disagree with that.
    French NT had to keep a good relationship with Spurs. If they don't, they know Spurs won't allow Parker to play for them the following summers.
    If French NT let an injured Parker plays, they won't never have him again in the future and they wont to avoid that.
    So far, they have been very careful with Parker to avoid any trouble with Spurs.

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    Parker was going full speed well after Euro07.
    Into December.
    The Spurs had Parker fly to San Antonio to take a look well before Euro07 and said it was OK for him to play.
    They wouldn't even trust an MRI done in France.
    So maybe Parker SHOULD not trust MRI done by them.
    It's Parker's ankle.
    He should have know better. And the Spurs should have stopped him long ago.

    From what I understand, it's minimum a full month.
    Anything less, they are kidding themselves, like in December.

    He might be back for the playoffs.

    If the Spurs make it to the playoffs.

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    Blame Kinder

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    The French NT gave parker an ultimatum. "play on your hurt ankle or don't ever play for us again". Yes, Tony should have swallowed his pride and not continued playing but he's young and stupid and it was a very Selfish move on the part of the French NT to do that to Parker.
    Evidence for that?

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