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If the Suns do deal Marion for Shaq, I doubt Phoenix keeps Shaq. Maybe he'll end up in Milwaukee or New York or something
You are not giving me or anyone any reasons to think otherwise. All i am seeing is a Marion hater talking trash.
If the Suns do deal Marion for Shaq, I doubt Phoenix keeps Shaq. Maybe he'll end up in Milwaukee or New York or something
but but butSince when is Shaq a defensive presence?
HE CAN DUNK!!!
From another Suns board
The "source" on the RealGM site who started this about a week ago on those boards is taking bets now that this deal goes down. Makes me wonder who he really knows and how close this actually is.
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtop...asc&highlight=
If the Suns do deal Marion for Shaq, I doubt Phoenix keeps Shaq. Maybe he'll end up in Milwaukee or New York or something
They'll be doing this deal to win a le this season. It's not like Nash is getting any younger.
Yeah great idea, get rid of a guy who can play defense for someone who no longer can and is always injured, on a team that on a whole plays ty D. That will get the Suns to the le in a hurry.LOL at people thinking defense is going to be a requirement for Shaq playing on the Suns...
you guys don't have a whole lot synapses firing do you?
shaq isn't an offensive force anymore. do you people even watch games?
marion is the best defender and best rebounder on that team.
and how the is phoenix going to play half court? they can't score like that.
True, but I seriously just see Shaq bogging down the Suns and making them even weaker in the middle, seeing as how running is not exactly one of Shaq's strengths, and Phoenix's whole philosophy is based on running.
Marion is a better offensive player than Shaq
A better defender than Shaq
A better rebounder than Shaq
More athletic than Shaq
Younger than Shaq and far more durable
The upside to this trade for the Suns is what exactly???
Shaq will boost them against some teams, but this really is a move IMO that will kill them.
Shaq doesn't rebound like he used to, and thats the big reason you'd pick him up, and YOU JUST TRADED AWAY YOUR BEST REBOUNDER!!!
Marion I think averages MORE rebounds than SHAQ!!
So much of the Suns offense comes from beating teams downcourt in transition. they ain't outrunning ANYONE if they have to wait for Shaq. this won't just be a matter of incorporating a new player into the team or chemistry issues, they will have to change the way they play COMPLETELY. And it's not like the Spurs adapting and playing small in stretches. they have to learn to execute in 1/2 courts sets, which they have shown time and again they cannot do to win a series.
14 points, 8 rebounds, 58 percent shooting from the field, 2 blocks , a plus 16 eff rating, and a steal in under 29 minutes a game on a ty team who doesnt get him the ball. I still think he has some gas left in the tank.
This is the only way this deal makes sense for Phoenix. They have to hope that Nash's superior passing will lead to easy dunks by Shaq. But wait, isn't that what they already get from Amare? Are they just going to put Amare and Shaq on opposite sides of the basket and hope Nash can throw ally-oops to the two of them all night long?
Not sure if going to a completely new strategy half-way through the season makes any sense. Plus, Shaq ain't even playing...his body is breaking down.
Shaq is still a great player and would kick all of our asses blindfolded with both hands behind his back right now, I just don't see the Big Man fitting in there.
He should go to a more grind-it-out type team imo.
best player on the suns??
Thats fine and dandy but when hes in foul trouble all the time or his hip is being sutured together thanks to running up and down the court 40 mins a night.14 points, 8 rebounds, 58 percent shooting from the field, 2 blocks , a plus 16 eff rating, and a steal in under 29 minutes a game on a ty team who doesnt get him the ball
Rapidly. Before our eyes.
It's an ugly decline.
I really don't think he has much left.
Im sure they will play him 40 minutes a night.
I agree.
Nash, Amare, Shaq, Hill and Diaw would be fun to watch even if it turns out to be a complete train wreck.
Like the Suns don't have enough offense as it is. Marion can give them 20 a night and play D, Shaq can maybe give them 20 a night and won't give them much else, assuming he stays on the court. What is the upside here???
You forget D'Antoni coaches the team?Im sure they will play him 40 minutes a night.
He has next to nothing left. All those years he was arrogant about not being in shape and playing at a high level has officially caught up to him. Showing up to training camp 50 PDS overweight, and playing himself into shape when he was 29 is now costing him big time at 36.
It boils down to this:
If Shaq has something left in the tank-good trade for suns, because they will now have a legit shot at a le..
If Shaq has nothing left in the tank- who cares, the way their team is now they aren't legit le contenders anyway...
Also, Marion is not a dominant player. He is an opportunistic player. Shaq MIGHT still be a dominant player. Maybe the Suns feel like in order to win a le they might have to roll the dice with Shaq.
Shaq has a jet with a mini bar, and beach houses all along the coasts of the country?
Joe thats all well in good.
Heres the problem.
They lose alot of rebounding, and alot of defense with this trade.
Period.
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