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  1. #76
    Baltimore Spurs Fan florige's Avatar
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    Aren't the Spurs currently in 6th place in the West? I think Dallas is concerned about matching up against other WC teams.

    Yeah barely at the midway point. I think it's premature to count the Spurs out now. You still have to take into consideration that Dallas was still a good team with Harris and Stack and Diop. Adding an aging Kidd is shaky imo when you already had something that worked. But whatever...

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    Yeah barely at the midway point. I think it's premature to count the Spurs out now. You still have to take into consideration that Dallas was still a good team with Harris and Stack and Diop. Adding an aging Kidd is shaky imo when you already had something that worked. But whatever...
    50 games through the season for the Spurs. Not "barely" at the midway point. And, the Spurs actually have a pretty difficult schedule the rest of the way, including 18 games in March with 10 on the road, 7 of those being against playoff teams, and 6 back-to-back sets, in the month of March alone.

  3. #78
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    I hope you guys make it that far so we can see. Right now it doesn't look good for the home team!
    Yeah, I mean, we're a whole HALF GAME behind you in the standing when one of our 3 best players has been hurt for all but 3 games of the season. We'll probably end up as the 12th seed in the West and get a top 5 pick.

    Hyperbole only applies if you didn't actually believe what you wrote.

    Yes. Parker with no legs and one hand is faster than every other person on the planet.

    im not disrespecting the Spurs bc they still have a great shot to win it all but there not going to win it every year and the older they get the greater their chances decrease
    They won the le last year, and except for Phoenix never even saw a game 6, let alone a 7 game series. Seems like they're not -that- old yet. And I agree with you, but Dallas just got a of a lot older too, so it closed the window on their franchise quite a bit.

    What are you talking about? The Mavs biggest problem the last two years is lack of leadership on the court and a lack of playmaker in the crunch time who they could depend on to make the right play or pass. Harris was neither of things and Kidd can bring both those things. It's a great deal for the Mavs, I think.
    They also run an offense primarily out of an iso-set, relying on one-on-one mismatches. Kidd does NOT add another scorer, just a playmaker. And it's going to take him quite a while to adapt to these players in terms of performing at a playoff level. Guards out West on the elite teams are going to give him problems. Deron, CP3, and Tony are going to light him up all night long. And yes, leadership is important, but I'm not sure he's good enough to lead them to the le. You need to have weapons to lead and ways to match up... I still don't see the Mavs matching up well with Golden State, the Spurs, the Lakers or the Jazz on defense. Tony is going to kill them. The twin Towers + Odom AND Kobe are just going to be a nightmare for Dallas to man-up with. Deron is going to wreak havoc, especially with a big like Boozer. And Golden State... they really didn't pick up anyone to shut down those gunners.

    And yes. They had to do something. I just don't know if this is enough to get them into the Finals.

  4. #79
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    [QUOTE=Cry Havoc]Trade deadline.

    Not trade.

    The KG deal is still the biggest of the year, IMO.

    But three massive deals before the deadline, with perhaps others in the works.... how awesome is this? I love the NBA. It's going to be fun seeing the new players work into the playoffs with their respective teams. Almost feels like NBA 2k8 with a bunch friends sitting around making trades for fun.[/QUOTE]

    yep these trades seem like my NBA 2k8 Online league

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    That's a lot to give up but if Dallas wins a ring it was worth it.

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    Baltimore Spurs Fan florige's Avatar
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    50 games through the season for the Spurs. Not "barely" at the midway point. And, the Spurs actually have a pretty difficult schedule the rest of the way, including 18 games in March with 10 on the road, 7 of those being against playoff teams, and 6 back-to-back sets, in the month of March alone.

    You are acting like we are dead in the water and we are only 2 1/2 games out of first place in the West. What happens now when or if we meet Dallas in the Playoffs. Not only are you not sure what Kidd will bring to the table against the rest of the league, you have now just traded away your three key players that successfully gave a constant contender trouble time and time again.

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    The best thing is that the Mavs still have those KVH rights to use for a push to get Mike Miller. Considering all the Grizz want are expiring contracts, I'm sure we can get rid of some bull like Juwan Howard, Barea, etc. along with KVH.

    Malik Allen & Antoine Wright are both expiring contracts. Holy we set ourselves up perfectly to get Miller also.

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    Congrats, Mavericks. You just made the Suns look less stupid.


    ing idiots.

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    Congrats, Mavericks. You just made the Suns look less stupid.


    ing idiots.
    yes bc our future in Devin Harris and J-Ho were guarenteed to win a le with a declining Dirk

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    You are acting like we are dead in the water and we are only 2 1/2 games out of first place in the West. What happens now when or if we meet Dallas in the Playoffs. Not only are you not sure what Kidd will bring to the table against the rest of the league, you have now just traded away your three key players that successfully gave a constant contender trouble time and time again.

    I'm acting nothing of the sort. I'm stating factually supported opinions.

    San Antonio is currently in 6th place in the West. That is a fact.

    Dallas is more concerned with other teams in the West. Judging by the trade they just made, that appears to be true.

    The Spurs have a difficult remainder of the regular season schedule, especially in the month of March. It's an opinion, but most people would agree it's difficult.

    Tony Parker has a serious injury that may linger the rest of the season. Not undeniable fact, but something that has been reported and which is very likely.

    And, the thing is the teams that currently have better records than the Spurs are making attempts to improve their teams.

    Believe what you want to believe. I realize you're going to support your team. But, balance it with at least a little reality.

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    The best thing is that the Mavs still have those KVH rights to use for a push to get Mike Miller. Considering all the Grizz want are expiring contracts, I'm sure we can get rid of some bull like Juwan Howard, Barea, etc. along with KVH.

    Malik Allen & Antoine Wright are both expiring contracts. Holy we set ourselves up perfectly to get Miller also.
    Didn't know that about Allen and Wright - very nice.

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    Didn't know that about Allen and Wright - very nice.
    Yeah according to RealGM they're expiring.

    If the Mavs turn around and get Mike Miller also, without giving up Dirk/Howard/Terry, then Donnie Nelson is a in genius.

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    Isn't there a waiting period of several months before they can trade players that they just got in trades?

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    I'm acting nothing of the sort. I'm stating factually supported opinions.

    San Antonio is currently in 6th place in the West. That is a fact.
    o, relative fact much? The Spurs are 2.5 games out of FIRST place in the conference. The entire West is separated by 5 games.

    Dallas is more concerned with other teams in the West. Judging by the trade they just made, that appears to be true.
    So that means it's a smart move, yes? Because they just dominated the Spurs in the playoffs in 2006, when it took 7 games, favorable officiating, a completely stupid foul by a Spurs player, and overtime to get them the win. Yeah, the Spurs are obviously an easy out for Dallas.

    The Spurs have a difficult remainder of the regular season schedule, especially in the month of March. It's an opinion, but most people would agree it's difficult.
    So is playing in the West. The Spurs have historically struggled through January and into the All-star break.

    Tony Parker has a serious injury that may linger the rest of the season. Not undeniable fact, but something that has been reported and which is very likely.
    It's also something which is completely up in the air. Unless you have medical evidence that makes it extremely likely that he won't be back at a high level, this is pure conjecture. It "may" linger the rest of the season. It also "may" not.

    And, the thing is the teams that currently have better records than the Spurs are making attempts to improve their teams.
    Which means nothing. Many see both the Suns and the Mavs as taking a step down out of desperation. "Trying to improve your team" means if you make a bad trade. If the Pistons traded Sheed for a couple picks and Billups for Jason Terry under the guise of "improving the team", would you be content? Is there such a thing as a bad trade to you, as long as the team does it to "improve"?

    Believe what you want to believe. I realize you're going to support your team. But, balance it with at least a little reality.
    How is discussing the matchup with Dallas if these teams meet in the playoffs some kind of fantasy concoction? The Spurs fans are happy because two or three players who were thorns in our side during the 06 run are gone, replaced with a player who we can exploit on defense. I haven't seen a SINGLE Spurs fan rant about how we're locks to win the le or even win the West yet. We see the Mavs as matching up less proficiently against us now. Yeah, you're right, we're just too unrealistic! Just curious: how's that haterade taste?

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    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Isn't there a waiting period of several months before they can trade players that they just got in trades?
    I doubt it. Rasheed Wallace played 1 game in Atlanta before going to Detroit. And the Heat are already shopping Shawn Marion around.

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    Nice panic move

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    no. Kill me now!

  19. #94
    adolis is altuve’s father monosylab1k's Avatar
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    Nice panic move
    you'd like to think that.

    The Mavs just confirmed to me that they're serious about winning a le right now. Once they add Mike Miller they will be the frontrunners in the West.

    A le isn't guaranteed by any means, but it just got one of a lot more likely.

  20. #95
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    Are you sure you're going to land Miller, Mono?

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    If so, I can see him being included in the deal with the understanding that he will be bought out and will sign with the Mavs in 30 days.
    Yep...

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    So they give up their PG of the future, their "Duncan stopper", and their best bench player?
    Right now it's who gives a about the future. For both PHX and Dallas if they don't win a championship the next 2 years their popularity will go wayyyyy down. They both have enough talent, or for the suns a system that will keep them from being 9-40 two years later.

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    Allen and Wright for Miller?
    Please Noooo.

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    Are you sure you're going to land Miller, Mono?
    Haha no i'm not at all sure, but it's my new hope. They're in perfect position to do so now that they have quite a few expiring contracts, something Memphis currently covets.

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    I doubt it. Rasheed Wallace played 1 game in Atlanta before going to Detroit. And the Heat are already shopping Shawn Marion around.
    Ok, I just went to ESPN.com's trade machine, and it says that if a team is over the salary cap, they can't trade a player they got in a trade in combination with other players for 2 months, but they can trade the player by himself.

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