Stack may also have screwed the Kidd trade

[Findog]

It's also about sign and trade opportunities. If his agent could arrange a sign and trade utilizing early bird rights, he could get 175% of his current salary. Without that, sign and trade is only 120%.

He's a guy on the tail end of his carreer looking out for his last possible payday. I understand the rationale, but I doubt anyone would be willing to pay him the 3 mil under the bird rights (or really even the 2 mil or so he's making now).

Again, a sign and trade utilizing his Bird rights requires Mark Cuban's cooperation. Devean and his agent are ing stupid, after blocking the trade, Cuban isn't going to do George any favors.

[ludda]

I don't think Stackhouse's big mouth will amount to anything. Maybe a slap on the wrist, most likely not the deal buster.

This is becoming comical by the minute. I feel for you mavs fan...almost.

Devean George is pretty ing stupid though. I read in the latest ESPN article that he was happy about his increased playing time and situation in Dallas. Also that the Mavs and Nets were taken completely aback by his change of heart since he had wanted to be traded earlier.

Sucks to have such a mindless dip on your team!

[Cry Havoc]

No Unauthorized Agreements.
(a) At no time shall there be any agreements or transactions of any kind (whether disclosed or undisclosed to the NBA), express or implied, oral or written, or promises, undertakings, representations, commitments, inducements, assurances of intent, or understandings of any kind (whether disclosed or undisclosed to the NBA), between a player (or any person or en y controlled by, related to, or acting with authority on behalf of, such player) and any Team (or Team Affiliate):


good find! thats exactly what I thought!

Owns the thread. What Stackhouse said is obviously against the league rules.

[monosylab1k]

It's largely the team/Avery vs. Cuban.

So what the does Donnie do in his office all day? Jack off to internet porn? Why the is he not involved in this?

And if Avery/team is insisting they can get it done despite obvious flaws......I say fine, let them go for it. I won't about this trade not being done for the rest of the season.

BUT if they don't make it to the WCF minimum, I will scream my lungs out that this team gets blown up and Avery gets fired (not that it will matter, but maybe daily e-mails to Cuban will make a slight....no that won't work either).

Avery's putting all his eggs in the "we like our team" basket and if he s this thing up again in the playoffs, then he's proven all he can prove to me, and it's time to move on.

[Findog]

^, true, the League has a vested interested in getting Kidd out of Jersey.

[monosylab1k]

now knowing this whole team vs. Cuban thing, I think it's pretty obvious Avery or someone else whispered "hey you can reject this trade if you want. just saying" in Devean's ear before it went through.

His agent HAS GOT to be smarter than this. Some HAS to be telling them "reject this trade". And if Avery was really for the trade, he'd have sat Devean's ass at the end of the bench last night.

It's obvious now that Avery is in on this.

[Shank]

It's obvious now that Avery is in on this.

...to spite Cuban, maybe?

To show him - "Hey, Mark. These guys you were just wanting to trade away? They actually play for me and fit into roles for which I need them. Don't go off and make some stupid ing trade without consulting me and my players."

[Cry Havoc]

This is delicious. So many plotlines. I've never seen Mavs fans so suddenly su ious of their own players and coaches.

[Shank]

This is delicious. So many plotlines. I've never seen Mavs fans so suddenly su ious of their own players and coaches.

Starts with the owner and his meddling ways.

[ludda]

Cuban is blaming George's agent for swindling them, not George:

"I feel bad for Devean George," Cuban said. "I really, really do. I think he got thrown under the bus by his agent. I think he's a great, great, great, great guy."

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent...84e63.html

[mavsfan1000]

...to spite Cuban, maybe?

To show him - "Hey, Mark. These guys you were just wanting to trade away? They actually play for me and fit into roles for which I need them. Don't go off and make some stupid ing trade without consulting me and my players."

If that's the case, expect Avery to be gone after this season. George is the one making the decisions I believe. No one else got involved except his agent.

[monosylab1k]

...to spite Cuban, maybe?

To show him - "Hey, Mark. These guys you were just wanting to trade away? They actually play for me and fit into roles for which I need them. Don't go off and make some stupid ing trade without consulting me and my players."

it's definitely a possibility IMO. if he really truly believes that this team can do it all, then I'm willing to give him another chance. but if this thing flames out yet again, Avery should be the first against the wall when the Revolucion! arrives.

[baseline bum]

Wow. If this deal doesnt happen, it is going to get ugly in Dallas. Stacks mouth, George's bird rights fiasco, the team sending the message to Harris that he isnt good enough at the moment to help this team to a championship etc etc. This is going to turn into a horrible crisis leading to team implosion.

It worked out fine for the Rockets when they traded Horry in 94, only to have to take him back when Sean Elliott failed his physical.

[Cry Havoc]

I wonder -- would the league have brought up this issue with Stackhouse if George would have agreed to the trade in the first place?

[monosylab1k]

Starts with the owner and his meddling ways.

Maybe so, but it's his toy and he has every right to do what he pleases with it. And if it's painfully obvious that this team, as currently contstructed, won't be winning jack this year, then he has a right to demand that changes be made. If his GM is too busy watching Stormy videos in the office with the blinds drawn, then he has every right to get on the phone himself.

And Avery needs to stick to coaching the team. Maybe teach the team a new play besides "Throw it in to Dirk at the high post, let him dribble it while making a pathetic attempt to back his guy down for 18 seconds, then either throw up a desperation fadeaway or his turnaround layup that rarely hits the rim"

[clambake]

trying to catch up here.

is the trade officially dead?

[monosylab1k]

trying to catch up here.

is the trade officially dead?

not yet but i'm starting to think that it is.

[Cry Havoc]

not yet but i'm starting to think that it is.

It's over. Stack won't go through on the trade. The players involved will have to be seriously revamped and it will look like a completely different trade afterwards.

A pity too, as I thought this removed too much depth from the Mavs to make them serious contenders.