Manu Ginobili (a thread for NON Spurs fans)

[JMarkJohns]

I'll openly admit to not having seen near as much basketball as I am used to. I've seen the Pistons play three times this season. If my opinion of Billups is outdated, then take it for whatever it's worth.

As for my definition of chucker, it's a player who'll take inopportune shots with defenders on him or time on the clock, or, also, when said player dribbles down the clock so that his heave is one of the few options remaining. Billups used to be this guy. If you say he isn't any longer, then I'll yield to your opinion.

Still, in light of having not seen this new and improved game manager, I'd probably still take Parker over Billups.

Sorry.

[JamStone]

Still, in light of having not seen this new and improved game manager, I'd probably still take Parker over Billups.

Sorry.

Nothing to apologize about. I would probably take a healthy Tony Parker over Chauncey Billups myself. My issue was not you thinking Parker was better. My issue was with you calling Billups a chucker when he hasn't been one in years.

As for my definition of chucker, it's a player who'll take inopportune shots with defenders on him or time on the clock, or, also, when said player dribbles down the clock so that his heave is one of the few options remaining. Billups used to be this guy. If you say he isn't any longer, then I'll yield to your opinion.

And, if that's your definition, then Chauncey Billups is not a chucker. Not saying he will absolutely never take a shot like that. But, those types of shots are extremely rare.

Just curious to test your bias, would you consider Steve Nash a chucker then? I've seen him dribble up the court and take a three pointer with 20 seconds left on the shot clock. I've also recently seen him force a couple bad shots despite having a slow night, I think it was against the Spurs recently. Haven't there been plenty of instances during a game where Nash has been "a player who'll take inopportune shots with ... time on the clock." Just testing your bias.

[JMarkJohns]

Yes. Nash is definaitely is chucker at times. However, I don't mind it so much from a 40% or better 3-point shooter as I do from a player like Davis who's so streaky he can miss four or five in a row.

I hated Richardson on the Suns.

Nash picks his spots. That's all I ask. Davis is great, but I think his style of play can do as much harm as good, which isn't what a successful team needs from its best player.

[Tippecanoe]

absolutely love him as a player

but absolutely hate him when hes playing against us

[LakeShow]

what about when Chris Childs made Kobe look like a ?

And dumbass..he had a black eye..Kobe hit him with his elbow directly in the eye; but of course to you that means he was slapped great logic

Boo Hoo, he had a black eye! That means you can lay on the floor in the fetal position for an hour like a little !

Pussy in fetal position after being slapped.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ko...ili/2723053793

Real Man after a violent elbow, down but not out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5glRSAUVCQ

[LakeShow]

damn your stupid!!! Must be one of those brains that I see driving around Los Angeles.

Your right..at the end of regulation Manu decided to cry for an hour..didn't they stop the game for like 2 hours to wheel Manu to the hospital? Oh I forgot dumbass he played in overtime and helped the Spurs beat the Lakers..what a ing pussy he is!!!!

Also..re how do you get a black eye from a slap?


The real is kobe calling out his teammates..demanding trades..having Chris Childs punk him..and crying on the bench when the Spurs killed them in 2003!!!!

Damn, you're such an idiot! How do you get a black eye from a slap? The same way you get a black eye from any blow to the eye you ing moron! Some spurs fans IQ is so ing low it's pathetic!

Look how dumb this statement is,

Your right..at the end of regulation Manu decided to cry for an hour..didn't they stop the game for like 2 hours to wheel Manu to the hospital? Oh I forgot dumbass he played in overtime and helped the Spurs beat the Lakers..what a ing pussy he is!!!!

They stopped the game for 2 hours, wheeled Manu to the hospital and he came back to help the Spurs beat the Lakers? You're such a tool! A mind is a terrible thing to waste!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

I don't know why he's trying to call out Manu out on that Kobe elbow of that game, it was a pretty good clock to the face.



http://media.collegepublisher.com/me...s/shr44s5o.jpg

I'm sure there are better examples (of Manu, or some other players lying on the floor overexaggerating) than that game's incident.

[anakha]

And the discussion was going so well...

[LakeShow]

Wow..you're so dumb you can't read can you? You stated " that Manu was lying down for an hour..and I said no he was lying down for 2 hours and was carted off to the hospital" (it's called sarcasm moron). I can't believe you how you can't read!!!!!!

How can someone still be a pussy for getting up after the play and helping his team win in overtime?

Idiot..people have been hit in the eye before you just don't get a black eye unless it's severe.. your dumb!

Sarcasm? more like idiocy! You don't have to have a severe blow to the eye to get a black eye if you're soft as charmin like Manu is.

They can be a pussy for laying out on the floor in the fetal position for an hour over a slap, like i stated previously. Ignoramous!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

And the discussion was going so well...

it got derailed after this comment,

They stopped the game for 2 hours, wheeled Manu to the hospital and he came back to help the Spurs beat the Lakers? You're such a tool! A mind is a terrible thing to waste!

[JamStone]

And the discussion was going so well...

The discussion was actually pretty good before posters started slinging at each other like those monkeys at the zoo ...

[LakeShow]

I don't know why he's trying to call out Manu out on that Kobe elbow of that game, it was a pretty good clock to the face.



http://media.collegepublisher.com/me...s/shr44s5o.jpg

I'm sure there are better examples (of Manu, or some other players lying on the floor overexaggerating) than that game's incident.

That's the best example i could find. Not too many MEN want to be known as a wuss and crybaby over any kind of hit.

Manu's elbow on Kobe was about the same impact. You didn't see Kobe crying like a little

http://www.truveo.com/Manu-Elbowed-K.../id/1456611730

[LakeShow]

Sorry about that, but you asked for a non spurs opinion of Manu, and I gave it. Can't help it if it bothers some idiots so much to start slinging mud. This is not the spurs forum and you wanted non homers opinions. I gave mine. I see Dumb spurs fans saying questionable about kobe all the time, he's a rapist, blah, blah, blah all the time and I don't start slinging mud, i just ignore them. Others should do the same otherwise feel the wrath!

[BonnerDynasty]

How about that huge black eye Manu got in the PHX SA Series last year.

After that hit he DOMINATED

[LakeShow]

How about that huge black eye Manu got in the PHX SA Series last year.

After that hit he DOMINATED

Which would be the manly thing to do. Unfortunately he played the pussy against LA and curled up in the fetal position!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Sorry about that, but you asked for a non spurs opinion of Manu, and I gave it. Can't help it if it bothers some idiots so much to start slinging mud. This is not the spurs forum and you wanted non homers opinions. I gave mine. I see Dumb spurs fans saying questionable about kobe all the time, he's a rapist, blah, blah, blah all the time and I don't start slinging mud, i just ignore them.

Nah it's fine. You can knock on Manu all you want, it's your right.

But I think there are better examples of NBA pussies, Manu's the kinda guy that you can't intimidate with hard fouls.

Others should do the same otherwise feel the wrath!

[BonnerDynasty]

Which would be the manly thing to do. Unfortunately he played the pussy against LA and curled up in the fetal position!

You caught Clark Kent and not Superman that day.

Happens to the best of them

[LakeShow]

You caught Clark Kent and not Superman that day.

Happens to the best of them

[LakeShow]

Nah it's fine. You can knock on Manu all you want, it's your right.

But I think there are better examples of NBA pussies, Manu's the kinda guy that you can't intimidate with hard fouls.

[remingtonbo2001]

John Stockton was the greatest pure point guard of all-time.

The man invented the flop.

It still doesn't take away from the fact that he was one of the GOAT.

[Deimosfobos]

Boo Hoo, he had a black eye! That means you can lay on the floor in the fetal position for an hour like a little !

Pussy in fetal position after being slapped.

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/ko...ili/2723053793

Real Man after a violent elbow, down but not out!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5glRSAUVCQ

I think is funny how both videos, wich are supposed to be oposites, are actually the same.

Both fall to the floor in "fetal position" after getting hit on the head (wich is a common reaction), the only diference is that on Manus video you show him 1 sec on the flor and then the video ends, while on your "real man" video he goes to the floor for several seconds before being able to get up and act all bad about being hited.

Funny... specially when Manu got up, didn't complained and owned the fakers later.

You can call Manu many things, but pussy is not one of them, he's known for playing even better after getting hited.

Nice try tho... keep trying.

[LakeShow]

I think is funny how both videos, wich are supposed to be oposites, are actually the same.

Both fall to the floor in "fetal position" after getting hit on the head (wich is a common reaction), the only diference is that on Manus video you show him 1 sec on the flor and then the video ends, while on your "real man" video he goes to the floor for several seconds before being able to get up and act all bad about being hited.

Funny... specially when Manu got up, didn't complained and owned the fakers later.

You can call Manu many things, but pussy is not one of them, he's known for playing even better after getting hited.

Nice try tho... keep trying.

I couldn't find one where Manu stayed on the floor but He didn't get right back up. Pop and others were huddled around him for quite some time but I'm done with that. I saw a chance to take a shot at him and I did. I'm done!

[Allanon]

Manu's a great player with skills but his flopping takes away from his game.

I mean seriously, wtf were those 2 shots at the end of the Boston game. Ok, 1 I could understand but 2? I think he could have made those shots straight up.

[BonnerDynasty]

He made up for it against the Cavs.

[greens]

I honestly haven't seen him flop that much in the last three years...So I don't get why there is this "flopper" image right now...I think Raja is probably the biggest flopper...after watching the Suns/Spurs playoff series last year...

By the way, I agree with those who have said that Manu is the ultimate compe or...I think that's what Pop says about him all the time.

Here is an example...from Game 3 vs the Suns in the playoffs last year...he gets hit in the eye, then scores 8 pts in different ways with a little over a minute left in the third quarter...first a floater, then a foul at a 3 point attempt, then a 3 pointer! I believe the US announcers were talking about how he looks like Oscar de la Hoya with that huge shiner.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=OfuROkNneQE