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    Purrrrrrrrrrrr Holt's Cat's Avatar
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    And you want to make a horrid trade today because of something that might happen 4 years from now.

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    Oh...my...god.

    We're having the Kidd/Tony Parker debate AGAIN????

    5 years later!?!?!?

    I thought this issue was done and dusted.

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    I can't believe Ghost fell for it. But then again, that was the point.

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    low shooting percentage = dominance

    if only the Spurs could find a guy who shoots a low percentage AND wears a headband or has cornrows.

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    No way! Kidd's probably going to those damned Mavs anyway. Parker is not "some Frenchman" He's our MVP last season, remember??

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    You would not trade Parker for Kidd and the ability to sign a max free agent as early as 2009.

    Incredulous.

    Is our front office that terrible or San Antonio that undesirable?

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    Why are the Spurs trading a 25 year old rising star point guard for 36 year old Jason Kidd when the Spurs' problems are age and an inability to lure top free agents to join the team?

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    Putting Kidd in the starting lineup would give us 3 guys who can't shoot. No thanks.

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    Why are the Spurs trading a 25 year old rising star point guard for 36 year old Jason Kidd when the Spurs' problems are age and an inability to lure top free agents to join the team?
    Because Kidd is still better than Parker and if the front office is worth their salt, they could get a star who is better than both of them as early as 2009.

    By your logic, we're fvcked the day Duncan starts to slow down and we realize maybe the other two are great because of him.

    One day, we'll need more than draft luck.








    I am off for Happy Hour. Could you please sign off on this?:

    I would not trade Parker for Kidd and the ability to sign a max free agent as early as 2009. - Holt's Cat

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    Trading for Kidd? A player who is on the true 'downside' of his career, for Parker, who hasn't even hit his prime??

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    I would not trade Parker for Kidd.

    I know the thread starter did not want to trade Parker for Kidd.

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    You would not trade Parker for Kidd and the ability to sign a max free agent as early as 2009.

    Incredulous.

    Is our front office that terrible or San Antonio that undesirable?
    A little of both. San Antonio is not a top free agent destination. The front office has not had a good record luring top free agents.

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    Didn't we go through this bull scenario 5 years ago?

    Let's table anymore prattle about Jason Kidd. We've already got a damn good PG that gives the Spurs another legitimate offensive threat.

    Let the Mavs sort out their own bull .

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    Hopefully, we won't face SEA in the playoffs. Weak take, base. That was right after Parker went down. We got another PG since then.




    P.S.

    Jason Kidd

    Second player in NBA history to average a triple-double for an entire postseason. Kidd finished with averages of 14.6 points, 10.9 rebounds and 10.9 assists in 12 games during the 2007 NBA playoffs.

    Joined Oscar Robertson who averaged 28.8 points, 11.0 assists and 11.0 rebounds in 4 games in a 3-1 first-round loss in 1962.
    Jason Kidd is the first person in 10 years to obtain a triple-double for 3 games in a row with 13 points, 12 assists, and 11 rebounds (1/08/2008).



    Yeah, he's done.
    It's like you haven't seen this guy play at all this year. His team is awful. Don't give me any garbage about how it's not his fault either, because Jefferson and Carter have both been healthy. His jumpshot went from pretty bad to Chris Dudley overnight this season. The guy is an absolute turnstile on defense, and a far cry from Parker there. Yeah, he grabs boards. So what? Is Josh Boone going to be taking them away from him? Kidd's looked like a sour all season ever since he didn't get an extension to his deal, and he would do the exact same thing here.

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    His jumpshot went from pretty bad to Chris Dudley overnight this season.
    Just wanted to say, I found this absolutely hilarious.

    Carry on.

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    Because Kidd is still better than Parker and if the front office is worth their salt, they could get a star who is better than both of them as early as 2009.

    By your logic, we're fvcked the day Duncan starts to slow down and we realize maybe the other two are great because of him.

    One day, we'll need more than draft luck.






    I am off for Happy Hour. Could you please sign off on this?:

    I would not trade Parker for Kidd and the ability to sign a max free agent as early as 2009. - Holt's Cat
    PLEASE! Kidd can't shoot. Never could shoot. I'll take my chances on a PG who is probably the quickest PG in the league and is one of the perennial leader in scoring points the paint. And who already has 3 rings and was the NBA Finals MVP.

    Sounds to me like you've started Happy Hour a bit soon.

    Let it die, already!

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    Parker > Kidd. Parker's future >>>>>>>Kidd's.

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    Why couldn't the Mavs close this trade?


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    You would not trade Parker for Kidd and the ability to sign a max free agent as early as 2009.

    Incredulous.

    Is our front office that terrible or San Antonio that undesirable?

    Why don't you share some of that wisdom with us and disclose who exactly is coming to save the day in 2009 if this goes down?

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    You guys are going overboard. The Spurs are not going to make a blockbuster deal unless they get a good player handed to them like the Lakers did.

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    Yeah, but we're discussing Kidd for Parker and change. I have no idea what you are describing.

    Parker is a top 10 PG in a system that suits his style very well.

    Kidd is a top 3 PG who may be the greatest playmaker of the past decade.
    We don't need Kidd, and he's too old. Maybe we will trade Parker long long later, but never for Kidd.
    Moreover, Spurs don't need great playmaker like Suns. Because the Spurs play as a whole, everyone does his role, everyone can be playmaker.

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    Shut it down, already!

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    Read it again.

    You'd rather Parker for the forseeable future, than Kidd for the next two postseasons and the ability to sign a max free agent as early as 2009.
    I didn't realize "Parker" and "Kidd" were verbs. What exactly are those acts?

    And yes, I'd much rather have Parker than Kidd, and Kidd would not allow a max signing when he came off the books anyway.

    Salary cap would be somewhere around 59-60 million it looks like. Spurs would have 40 million occupied by 5 players They only have 8 players under contract next year also, so they have to sign 5 players, most likely at about 2-3 million per average, so there goes 10-15 million of that unless they are 1 year deals, which isn't likely. That gives you a salary of 0f 50-55 million for 10 players, needing to sign 3 more players on 5 million.

    Not even close to max capable, considering max salary will be something like 20 mil.

    Also, replace Parker with Kidd makes next years salary 63 mil with only 8 players signed, and that doesn't include Splitter and whatever backups they might want. Remember, they have to have 13 players under contract, and the luxury tax will be about 70 mil at most.

    That's not even getting to how Parker's game fits in much better with the Spurs system as it is currently set up.

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    this thread should be locked for stupidity
    this was discussed to death already
    tp finals mvp jason kidd no finals mvp

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    Remember when Jason Kidd won that finals MVP? man he was something else, Parker's best days are probably behind him anyways, so I wouldn't mind trading him for someone who is younger, cheaper, has a better jumper, and more championship experience like Kidd.

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