View Poll Results: Is howards "superman dunk" a dunk?

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  1. #76
    Makes you say hmmm... YoMamaIsCallin's Avatar
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    After this post, it's over (as Kenny Smith says).

    Quit arguing about dictionary definitions of a dunk. What Howard did extended the definition of dunking. To get up so high and be so accurate that you can throw the ball downwards from a couple of feet away and have it go in the basket is A New Kind Of Dunking. To be known from here on as ANKOD.

    Also, minor point, but let me regulate this too: There is no such thing as "hanging in the air" or "staying up longer". The arc of the player's center of mass on a leap is completely determined by the velocity and acceleration imparted by the initial thrust off the floor. The reason Dwight Howard seems to stay up longer is (a) his initial thrust is big and (b) his center of mass is higher than other players because he's tall and has a lot of mass above the waist.

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    http://youtube.com/watch?v=eKkVzaM-L_k

    this is for all the people who think D Ho was the first to dunk it from behind the backboard

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    Who gives a ? It was entertaining and thats what the whole point of this weekend is. Everybody getting their panties all in a bunch over this is hilarious. LET IT GO!

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    this is for all the people who think D Ho was the first to dunk it from behind the backboard
    I'd forgotten about that. I think you're right.

    However Howard's dunk was quite a bit better, in that he threw the ball to himself off the backboard and came from directly behind the backboard from a standstill with only two steps. Andre had a full running start, and he did it from an angle, not directly behind the backboard, and he didn't have to toss the ball up.

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    He makes me think of a young DRob .

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    Something I think people are forgetting is that part of the scoring is the reaction of the crowd. EVERYONE was on their feet jumping up and down after the Superman dunk! I mean, did you see Kobe's reaction - it was great!

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    Who gives a ? It was awesome.

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    Who gives a ? It was awesome.
    Exactly! The whole purpose of the dunk contest is to ENTERTAIN - and that's exactly what Dwight Howard did! He definately deserved to win.

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    It wasn't a "dunk" but it was still pretty damn nice.

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    Above the rim != over the rim. He released the shot above the rim.

    Apparently this is rocket science for some.
    Again not reading...The words held above the rim was preceded by "with one or both hands". It means that upon thrusting the ball into the basket at least one or both of your hand would have held the rim. It doesn't pertain to the thrust but to the hands.

    If your own definition doesn't help you, maybe you should get another. I won't argue with that. But even a little girl knows what a dunk look like.

    Stop being sentimental about Howard's win and be rational. Before, the contest, all prior contestant (way back from ABA days) held the rim . So why change now??

    I'm not saying that he didn't deserve it, he made other dunks and he might have finished the superman dunk on the second try. But for the league to disregard that fully is unfair. I'm not routing for green or any other contestant. Like all other fans, I'm just here to enjoy the show.

    The only thing that made this discussion long is the irrationality that comes from some persons that claim that it was a dunk. When Dr. J and chamberlain made dunks in the old days the touching of the rim gave it a distinction from the other shots. And this distinction- in my view- was never erased by one error.

    Don't lose sleep over this...

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    You guys are full of it. Where does it say your hand has to be close to the rim? How close? 2 inches? 6 inches? 11.7 inches?

    His hand was above the rim when he released it and it went downward into the basket.
    That wasn't a dunk man, face the facts.

    Most of the layups in teh playstation skills challenge were above the rim and those were considered layups not dunks.

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    Ask 100 people in NYC or someother city and they will all agree for it to be considered a dunk the guy has to slam it through the rim with his hands.

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    Technically speaking though Shoog is right:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slam_dunk

    Main Entry: dunk shot
    Function: noun
    Date: circa 1961
    : a shot in basketball made by jumping high into the air and throwing the ball down through the basket


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    Technically speaking though Shoog is right:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slam_dunk

    Main Entry: dunk shot
    Function: noun
    Date: circa 1961
    : a shot in basketball made by jumping high into the air and throwing the ball down through the basket

    I think it was a Dunk... just not the "dunk" people have in mind.

    Anyways... it was amazing and a great Dunk contest, who care about the rest?

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    Technically speaking though Shoog is right:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slam_dunk

    Main Entry: dunk shot
    Function: noun
    Date: circa 1961
    : a shot in basketball made by jumping high into the air and throwing the ball down through the basket

    Wrong, the rule of thumb has been for some time now that you jam the ball through with your hand. You can look any word up in a dictionary and contradict it. Just like the "N" word used to have a different meaning in the dictionary 50 years ago and not only until recently it was changed to a slang racial term but it was already known and used as a slang racial term. Definitions change over time. It ain't no dunk.

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    What the . Man this is the most anal thread I've ever seen in my life. Genome is obviously from a very diluted gene pool.

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    It was a throw down, but the dunk contest should be all about showmanship and entertainment value. Its been going down the crapper these past few years and Superman just singlehandidly brought it back. Props to him for his creativity, talent, and amazing natural athleticism. So yeah, Dwight deserved the trophy.

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    The people who have been arguing about the semantics on a freaking slam dunk contest should never be permitted to have sex ever again.

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    that was not a real dunk.

    He is a great entertainer/clown but he is no great dunker.

    I miss JRichardson, he was the best dunker in the last 10 years

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    i don't think having to obtain permission is what's stopping them

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    So you are telling me that everytime I throw a piece of garbage into the trashcan I am dunking??

    WOW


    if you don't touch the rim with your hand, you are not dunking.

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    So you are telling me that everytime I throw a piece of garbage into the trashcan I am dunking??
    Why is your trashcan so high in the air?? Thats thats stupid...


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    If a 7 footer shoots a baby hook in the lane where his hand is above the height of the rim but doesn't come close to touching the rim, would most people consider that a dunk?
    Could it be because that a hook has a soft arc after releasing the ball whereas a dunk has more or less a forced straight downward path toward the basket?

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    i thought the term dunk came from the action of "dunking" the ball, like dunking a donut in coffee
    But you don't hold normally hold the edge of the cup, do you?

    Normally, you just flush the donut into the coffee.

    at this thread. I still consider Howard's shot as a dunk for entertainment, creativity and showmanship purposes.

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    What the . Man this is the most anal thread I've ever seen in my life. Genome is obviously from a very diluted gene pool.
    And you obviously has some big insecurity. You have to downgrade people just to make you feel your better/ smarter than everyone else. If you don't want to the topic then don't post anything - no one is forcing you. You don't need to say anything against anyone.

    But you must admit, I got everyone's machine running over a (practically) simple question - that became complicated because of Howard's "dunk/throw". And please, I made no claim that what he did isn't great -I just posted a question and the effect of the league's negligence.

    If Howard's dunk is really a dunk - why is there a persistent question on people's mind that it maybe not. Don't you think that the fact that the people get to think twice about something - may give some credit to an argument - otherwise it would have generally been accepted as FALSE/CRAZY.

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