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    he isn't even done with his first term as senator.
    Unlike Clinton the US Senate is not his first goverment service.

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    We need an atheist to run for president one of these days.

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    We need an atheist to run for president one of these days.
    I'm sure we already have, but it will be a while before anyone admits to it.

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    I'm sure we already have, but it will be a while before anyone admits to it.
    It's a shame that you have to believe in a certain religion in order to get elected president in this country.

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    Funny, seems to me that Barak has more government service under his belt than Hilary. First Lady is not an elected office. Bush had the constant ear and support of a former president and we saw how well that worked out for him.

    Hilary's time in the senate is aweomse if you ask me. She voted for the Iraqi war resolution and her comments on that vote are stellar. I love her experience there, but only because it strenthens the argument for Barak.

    And you are speaking out of ignorance Pee-Wee. I'm glad you seen his stump speeches. Thats never where the meat of a candidate is to be found. You say he has no plans but when I give you the plans on how he's going to do everything you're response was "I can't read those now".

    If your'e not ignorant to their existance then why would you say they didn't exsist?

    The ear and support that Bush the second had was Bush the first.
    The ear and support that Hillary would have is Bill.
    I hope you're not implying that Bush the first = Bill Clinton.

    And, Hillary has decades of political experience, not just her current stint as a Senator.

    However you may try to make it that I speak out of ignorance, what is the point of speeches? Is it not to try to persuade you to vote for the speaker? That's the whole point, isn't it?

    All I'm saying is, that during those speeches I have not been given a clear reason to vote for him. He's has given me nothing in weight to persude me to vote for him. Sure, he's got a website with what he plans to do (and I really don't have time to read up on it just now, being that I'm at work), but so does Hillary.

    Hillary, however, has said how she plans to get us out of our economic crisis. She's explained how she would end the Iraq War. She has said she would push for energy independence, improve our education system, reform the immigration system, and help the middle class.

    I also appreicate the idea of universal health coverage. Due to the fact that I now have a child and I have to pay up the ying-yang to make sure she's covered, her health care package is much more appealing than Barak's health care plan.

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    Unlike Clinton the US Senate is not his first goverment service.
    She's been involved in Civil Service for MUCH longer than Barak.

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    We need an atheist to run for president one of these days.

    Are you sure you want a President that doesn't believe there will be ulimate repercussions for his/her actions?

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    Hillary, however, has said how she plans to get us out of our economic crisis. She's explained how she would end the Iraq War. She has said she would push for energy independence, improve our education system, reform the immigration system, and help the middle class.

    I also appreicate the idea of universal health coverage. Due to the fact that I now have a child and I have to pay up the ying-yang to make sure she's covered, her health care package is much more appealing than Barak's health care plan.
    What a shocking platform for a politician to run on.


    They all say this..........it's just that Hillary sounds like a when she does it.

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    The ear and support that Bush the second had was Bush the first.
    The ear and support that Hillary would have is Bill.
    I hope you're not implying that Bush the first = Bill Clinton.

    And, Hillary has decades of political experience, not just her current stint as a Senator.

    However you may try to make it that I speak out of ignorance, what is the point of speeches? Is it not to try to persuade you to vote for the speaker? That's the whole point, isn't it?

    All I'm saying is, that during those speeches I have not been given a clear reason to vote for him. He's has given me nothing in weight to persude me to vote for him. Sure, he's got a website with what he plans to do (and I really don't have time to read up on it just now, being that I'm at work), but so does Hillary.

    Hillary, however, has said how she plans to get us out of our economic crisis. She's explained how she would end the Iraq War. She has said she would push for energy independence, improve our education system, reform the immigration system, and help the middle class.

    I also appreicate the idea of universal health coverage. Due to the fact that I now have a child and I have to pay up the ying-yang to make sure she's covered, her health care package is much more appealing than Barak's health care plan.


    Health care costs out the ying yang.

    The difference is that you have a job and are now just paying for YOUR families health care. With universal health care you will not only be paying for yours, but everyone elses that chooses NOT to work.

    If you think universal health care will SAVE you money you are delusional.

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    For guys that like to talk all this bull and show off their extreme presidential candidate IQ it's pretty funny that nobody in this thread is spelling Barack's name right.

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    Are you sure you want a President that doesn't believe there will be ulimate repercussions for his/her actions?
    Is this a serious question?

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    I'm sure we already have, but it will be a while before anyone admits to it.
    Yeah pretty much always thought this.

    I am quite sure high level politics have their share the same as the standard population but nobody dare's to go public with it.

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    Is this a serious question?


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    Yeah pretty much always thought this.

    I am quite sure high level politics have their share the same as the standard population but nobody dare's to go public with it.

    So the standard population is Atheist?

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    Health care costs out the ying yang.

    The difference is that you have a job and are now just paying for YOUR families health care. With universal health care you will not only be paying for yours, but everyone elses that chooses NOT to work.

    If you think universal health care will SAVE you money you are delusional.
    do people realize that this "free" universal healthcare isn't that? free. i thought people want small government. this whole "global warming" scam. just wait for the carbon tax. oh and did anyone hear about the Global Poverty Act that just passed in the senate. you'll be happy to see who was the sponsor for that one, but for you "change" people, i don't want to bore you with details.

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    We need an atheist to run for president one of these days.
    Thomas Jefferson was pretty close.

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    So the standard population is Atheist?
    it's headed that way.

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    So the standard population is Atheist?
    up until they think they're gonna die.

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    The ear and support that Bush the second had was Bush the first.
    The ear and support that Hillary would have is Bill.
    I hope you're not implying that Bush the first = Bill Clinton.

    And, Hillary has decades of political experience, not just her current stint as a Senator.

    However you may try to make it that I speak out of ignorance, what is the point of speeches? Is it not to try to persuade you to vote for the speaker? That's the whole point, isn't it?

    All I'm saying is, that during those speeches I have not been given a clear reason to vote for him. He's has given me nothing in weight to persude me to vote for him. Sure, he's got a website with what he plans to do (and I really don't have time to read up on it just now, being that I'm at work), but so does Hillary.

    Hillary, however, has said how she plans to get us out of our economic crisis. She's explained how she would end the Iraq War. She has said she would push for energy independence, improve our education system, reform the immigration system, and help the middle class.

    I also appreicate the idea of universal health coverage. Due to the fact that I now have a child and I have to pay up the ying-yang to make sure she's covered, her health care package is much more appealing than Barak's health care plan.
    K - so she's promised you "free" healthcare and Obama hasn't in his speeches.

    Thats all you had to say.

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    a fine reason you don't discuss religion and politics especially when they're intermingled.

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    At a far slower pace then everyone seems to think.

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    At a far slower pace then everyone seems to think.
    I think it's become more acceptable for an atheist to proclaim his/her non-belief, but the percentage of atheists among the general population isn't growing at a very rapid pace.

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    As insistant as Americans are about having a Christian in the Office of President, we are also very flexible when it comes to the degree of his or her spirituality. As long as you say you're a Christian and maybe show up at church a couple times a year, we won't ask questions.

    It's very easy for a political figure to keep a Christian facade so there's really no point in making it an issue. It only becomes an issue when you proclaim your atheism.

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    As insistant as Americans are about having a Christian in the Office of President, we are also very flexible when it comes to the degree of his or her spirituality. As long as you say you're a Christian and maybe show up at church a couple times a year, we won't ask questions.

    It's very easy for a political figure to keep a Christian facade so there's really no point in making it an issue. It only becomes an issue when you proclaim your atheism.
    Why does it become a problem, though? Why does it have to be an issue at all?

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    I just hope more people than ever get out and participate in this historical election. All the candidates have their websites up and running. Do your own research. Both Barack and Hillary have mentioned their websites in their speeches.

    Just get out and Barack the Vote!!!

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