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    i have a feeling some team is gonna pick him up...brent is too good of a shooter to be passed on
    Yeah...but it won't likely be any of the teams in le contention, because they'll have to pay a premium price for him.


    And the thing is...he is coming off injuries.

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    Barry is coming back. Speculating about what is going to happen is a waste of bandwidth.

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    Ugh, will he sign a new contract with San Antonio or will we have to pick up his money on top of KT?

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    i have a feeling some team is gonna pick him up...brent is too good of a shooter to be passed on
    Only 3 teams have the cap flexibility to claim him - Charlotte, Memphis, and Phoenix (because of a trade exception). Phoenix will not do it though, because they are over the Luxury Tax threshold (meaning they would have to basically pay $11M for Barry's services).

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    " Please come back Brent "

    how can Brent refuse now?

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    i have a feeling some team is gonna pick him up...brent is too good of a shooter to be passed on
    May be.

    But there are only a handful of teams that could allow him - Memphis, Charlotte, Atlanta, and Pheonix, with their trade exception. There isn't any really good reason for any of those teams to take an aging, injured player whose contract expires this year. Pheonix is probably best placed, but it would cost them a lot.

    Regardless, if someone does take him, well, we still have Kurt Thomas, hugely improved rebounding and the same people playing who've been playing Brent's minutes since his injury.

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    Ugh, will he sign a new contract with San Antonio or will we have to pick up his money on top of KT?
    If he clears waivers, Seattle pays the remainder of his guaranteed contract and he signs a new contract with SA, likely for the vet min.

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    May be.

    But there are only a handful of teams that could allow him - Memphis, Charlotte, Atlanta, and Pheonix, with their trade exception. There isn't any really good reason for any of those teams to take an aging, injured player whose contract expires this year. Pheonix is probably best placed, but it would cost them a lot.

    Regardless, if someone does take him, well, we still have Kurt Thomas, hugely improved rebounding and the same people playing who've been playing Brent's minutes since his injury.
    Atlanta is actually too close to the cap to claim Barry.

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    The problem is...even if he clears waivers and Brent wanted to wait for 30 days...are the Spurs going to pay? What profit splitting arrangement did they have with the Sonics (see Ludden's article yesterday)? If the Spurs can't get better perimeter scoring from the other players not named Ginobili, they will need someone like Brent for some of their dry spells.

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    The problem is...even if he clears waivers and Brent wanted to wait for 30 days...are the Spurs going to pay? What profit splitting arrangement did they have with the Sonics (see Ludden's article yesterday)? If the Spurs can't get better perimeter scoring from the other players not named Ginobili, they will need someone like a healthy Brent for some of their dry spells.

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    If he comes back who goes on the inactive list. Vaughn? Stoudamire? I guess the next 30 days will decide it.

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    The waiver thing would seem to make it unlikely that anyone other than the Suns could do anything about claiming Brent's deal. After all, claiming a player through the waiver process compels the claiming team to assume the remainder of the contract, and I would assume that a team would have to have capspace to make such a claim -- Brent's deal is an MLE-level deal at this point, so a team claiming him off waivers would have to have some pretty substantial amount of capspace. If the Suns can use the exception to claim a player, that makes them a possibility, to the extent that Sarver is willing to add Barry's deal to the tax bill.

    Once Brent clears waivers, he's likely to sign with some contender for the vet minimum (since no contender has any real capspace and none have any exceptions available other than for vet minimum salaries, I would think). That should create a level playing field. If Brent decides (or has already decided) that San Antonio is where he wants to be, it seems unlikely to me that any other team would be able to truly outbid the Spurs. From a PR perspective, it would make sense from an objective standpoint that Brent would prefer to stay in San Antonio, too. The fact that he might choose to sign here wouldn't seem to suggest a collusive deal; it would seem to suggest that he chose the Spurs again over many options that were available.

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    I'd be stunned if Barry weren't back as a Spur this year. It's fairly clear he's coming back.

    I don't think it's a certainty...other teams can get involved after the waiver period is over.

    It's really going to depend on his own code of values and how much he really liked being a Spur and playing for Pop. He could have been getting more minutes under other coaches that aren't as defensive oriented as Pop...I doubt have a doubt about that.

    I do think he'll be sorely tempted by the Suns and the Lakers...


    And keep in mind...Barry is not exactly Mr. Loyalty...he's been traded a bunch and he didn't think twice about leaving Seattle the first time around...a town where he was considered a team leader and somewhat of a fan favorite....in fact he went up to Pop and asked Pop to get him out of there during a game once upon a time...


    He's going to do what's in his best interest...it's not going to be about loyalty that much...anymore than the Spurs were loyal to him for taking less to play here.

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    No one's picking up a $5 million guy who has barely played this year. Only Phoenix has any likelihood to, but they're already up the wazoo with money. Spurs will get him back for locker room stability and the outside chance he can come back and contribute.

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    The problem is...even if he clears waivers and Brent wanted to wait for 30 days...are the Spurs going to pay? What profit splitting arrangement did they have with the Sonics (see Ludden's article yesterday)? If the Spurs can't get better perimeter scoring from the other players not named Ginobili, they will need someone like a healthy Brent for some of their dry spells.
    Someone posted yesterday that the Spurs could still resign Barry for a pro-rated minimum salary and still stay under the Luxury Tax threshold. Brilliant!

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    No one's picking up a $5 million guy who has barely played this year. Only Phoenix has any likelihood to, but they're already up the wazoo with money. Spurs will get him back for locker room stability and the outside chance he can come back and contribute.
    You do realize he's going to be a FA after he clears waiver right?

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    "who has barely played this year"

    and who is still hurt.

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    As I think about it, what arrangement could the Spurs have made with the Sonics (officially) if Brent was waived? I don't think they could (officially).

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    The problem is...even if he clears waivers and Brent wanted to wait for 30 days...are the Spurs going to pay? What profit splitting arrangement did they have with the Sonics (see Ludden's article yesterday)? If the Spurs can't get better perimeter scoring from the other players not named Ginobili, they will need someone like Brent for some of their dry spells.
    True.

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    Someone posted yesterday that the Spurs could still resign Barry for a pro-rated minimum salary and still stay under the Luxury Tax threshold. Brilliant!
    Yeah, I also discussed it earlier today. I used a $1M example, which would keep it under the luxury tax.

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    The problem is...even if he clears waivers and Brent wanted to wait for 30 days...are the Spurs going to pay? What profit splitting arrangement did they have with the Sonics (see Ludden's article yesterday)? If the Spurs can't get better perimeter scoring from the other players not named Ginobili, they will need someone like a healthy Brent for some of their dry spells.
    True again.

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    No one's picking up a $5 million guy who has barely played this year. Only Phoenix has any likelihood to, but they're already up the wazoo with money. Spurs will get him back for locker room stability and the outside chance he can come back and contribute.
    It would actually be an $11M guy for Phoenix if they were to pick him up. Does anyone really think he's worth that?

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    After reading Bruno's analysis of our cap situation I have this sneaking su ion we haven't seen the last of Brent Barry in the Silver and Black.

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    It's still a risky proposition given that a team could pull him off waivers, and that he is no obligation to resign with the Spurs.

    A risk I am willing (and clearly the Spurs were willing) to take to fill a gaping void.
    What team is going to pay 11 million for Brent Barry?

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