Age 17, has 7 kids
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1811
Also, while you can reference American culture in the blame game when speaking about the entire country, when discussing things on a personal basis you have to lay the responsibility at the feet of the parents and not American culture. It is a parents job to make sure their child has appropriate role models and not Britney Spears. Too often parents place the blame at the foot of celebrities and others as a cop out.
I think any one with common sense realizes 14 year olds generally don't make the wisest of decisions at times. It just sucks when those bad decisions have far reaching consequences.
It would be wonderful if growing up could be done with no chance of getting hurt.
The hardest part of raising our kids was keeping their mother from killing them before they grew up and got out of high school.
I agree. I am always very cautious about what I say to and in front of my child when stories like this arise-- because I went to school with a girl who got pregnant and was terrified to tell her parents because when it had happened to another girl, they said, "If you ever do that, we'll kill you."
Holland is a very good example of this. Tey have one of the lowest rates worldwide and you'd be hard pressed to find a society that addresses sexuality in a more open or even honest fashion.
"The Dutch approach to preventing teenage pregnancy has often been seen as a model by other countries. The curriculum focuses on values, at udes, communication and negotiation skills, as well as biological aspects of reproduction. The media has encouraged open dialogue and the health-care system guarantees confidentiality and a non-judgmental approach."
Valk, Guus. (2000). The Dutch Model. The UNESCO Courier. Retrieved July 7, 2006.
It's an interesting article that emphasize the need for teaching decision making skills.
I can't stand these people either. You can only hope they make the right choice. Arm chair parents are the worst.
That's why you go anal until your 18.
Keep her home until she has the baby. Tell the school she had MONO.
ploto has like 3rd grade reading comprehension.
It's not surprising considering that on the one hand we have a culture which promotes doing whatever you feel like without regard for responsibility, yet is quite judgmental, and a puritanical legal system undergirding it all.
Teenage sex is glorified in this country while at the same time the predictable results are condemned. Of course, if it's your son...way to nail that tail.
But it's so much easier to put the blame on Hollywood, Larry Flynt, the degenerating of society, and such when it seems the parents' at udes toward sex are the major problem. When you're 14, you don't know about sex if your parents haven't taught you anything. Why? Because your friends don't know , because their parents are unwilling to teach them. You don't learn anything in school because of this abstinence garbage they push.
I find it funny that high-schoolers aren't taught that taking it in the ass is by far the easiest way to get HIV from sex. ing Puritan culture won't allow the schools to teach knowledge as important as this because they want to pretend gays don't exist, that women don't get double-teamed, and so on.
Laugh at dallaskd's post, but I knew a few girls who only gave up the asshole in HS for fear of pregnancy and/or losing their "virginity"
Of course they had no idea how much more dangerous that was for them than any other kind of sexual act, since it's all the same to the abstinence programs.
that sucks.... if my girlfriend got pregnant I'd flip.
I'm pro-choice but she and her mom and my mom are all both pro-life...
I won't say that a termination is the best thing for this girl because I don't know her - in the long run it might be more practical, but that depends on a lot of variables. For one, if she's had time to find out, stall before telling the parents most likely, and then have a big family feud, she might be far enough along to make an abortion far more traumatizing, both physically and emotionally.
I was adopted after being born to a teenage mother, and I am thankful everyday that she gave me up to someone who was more prepared and eager to handle raising a child. Adoption works. Life was insane enough being raised by adults, I can't imagine growing up while my parent(s) were trying to do the same.
Somebody in my family got pregnant at the age of 13. My family still loves them and the baby. It's all about how you handle it.
You are joking, right?
Proper sexual education means making it quite clear what the possible consequences of sex are (ie. pregnancy, STDs), and how to avoid those consequences by either not having sex or using condoms properly.
Kids are kids - they are going to do these things whether you want them to or not. If you choose not to educate them and leave them in the dark about the meaning and consequences of sex, without any education, then they have no chance - they won't use condoms and you'll get more undesirable outcomes.
I hope that you weren't serious about a head-in-the-sand approach, but your sarcasm wasn't thick enough for me to tell one way or the other.
Edit - having now read the whole thread I know you were kidding. Apologies. Thicker sarcasm next time please!
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 02-26-2008 at 12:33 AM.
He's kidding!
I think when you tell your daughter, "no questions asked", if they are getting ready to have sex, make sure you get them on birth control. Automatic vasectomy for boys
P.S. Vasectomy reversal is available in Houston for his wedding present
SPOT ON!
Yeah, I forgot it was a 4-page thread, and by the time I got to the end of it I worked that out.He's kidding!
I think when you tell your daughter, "no questions asked", if they are getting ready to have sex, make sure you get them on birth control. Automatic vasectomy for boys
P.S. Vasectomy reversal is available in Houston for his wedding present
ing abstinence programs, what horse . GW and his hard-right cronies screwed the US and the developing world with that crap - they canceled all US funds to sexual education that featured condom use, and surprise, surprise, STD and birth rates in the third world went through the roof. Well done!
BTW, do you guys have the "morning after pill"? You can take it up to 48 hours after sex and it brings on a period. It's very useful for broken condoms and the like, although there is some controversy about it since pro-lifers say it's a "no-consequences abortion". The fact that you have to get it from a doctor makes of mockery of that, but that's another debate for another time. Might've helped these kids to know about it though... (were they using condoms and it broke, or was it just a case of ignorance?)
PS Manny, at 14 I was just like you - playing cricket and doing homework was all I did after school. I had no interest in girls until turning 16, and then they weren't interested in me (I was too much of a geek), so my parents never had to worry about me getting a girl pregnant...
Last edited by RuffnReadyOzStyle; 02-26-2008 at 12:32 AM.
You don't need a doctor for the morning after pill
Really, you can buy it over the counter? Here you have to get it from a doctor.
I realise that you could get around that by working out that it's just a triple dose of the contraceptive pill, but the vast majority of people wouldn't go down that path - they'd go to the doc/emergency and get one.
Edit: just checked that, and you DON'T need a prescription any more, you can simply buy it from the chemist. Interesting. You used to need to see a doctor.
Very very interesting. I was never aware that the British word for pharmacist was chemist.
im the father
SFIE and I talked about this last night.
Bear with me, I'm going to be circular for a moment.
I refuse to take hormonal birth control because of issues my mother had with it that I could potentially have (and they were of the type that I am uninterested in trying to figure them out). So we have always practiced the Fertility Awareness Method of birth control. Also known as NFP (Natural Family Planning) - but it is NOT the Rhythm Method. Anyway, the leading book on this is a book called Taking Charge of Your Fertility.
So. We are also planning to start a family soon - the program is easily switched from pregnancy prevention to pregnancy acheivement - you just change when you have sex or cease using barriers. Ok. So because we are planning to start a family soon I hang out a lot on baby boards. The book I mentioned earlier is frequently cited over and over as the TTC Bible.
Every.Single.Day. women read that book and come back shocked, amazed, and even a little angry over how much they didn't know about their bodies work. And these are generally smart, well educated women. They just don't know how things really work (I mean there is a general idea, but not specifics).
So - we will make sure our children read the book (actually they have recently come out with a version for teenage girls) and understand biology and know to use protection. We will do the best we can to be open about sex and the potential results.
It won't necessarily prevent pregnancy, but at least we can try to make sure our kids are educated about their options and responsibilities and are able to come to us if something does happen.
I'm so sorry about your friends, CC. I'm thinking of them.
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