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    I didn't say anything about the series. What I know and what I said is that Diop always used to do a good job on Duncan and slow him down, Magloire will be unable to do any such thing. Isn't this thread en led "new Duncan stopper"?
    Yes it is, by a spurs fan. No Mavs fan ever said anything to that effect.

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    I didn't say anything about the series. What I know and what I said is that Diop always used to do a good job on Duncan and slow him down, Magloire will be unable to do any such thing. Isn't this thread en led "new Duncan stopper"?
    Who the thinks in all seriousness that Jamaal Magloire is going to be able to do that? Mavs need another big to deal with all of the teams they might face in the playoffs. It's not all about you.

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    Who on our team guarded Dirk in 03-04, and 04-05? It seems like he never really became a noticeable mismatch for us until 05-06.

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    Who on our team guarded Dirk in 03-04, and 04-05? It seems like he never really became a noticeable mismatch for us until 05-06.
    Malik Rose I think.

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    The Warriors don't practice good shot selection. Make or Miss, they're going to run and jack up threes with 20 seconds left on the shot clock before the defense is set. Over the course of 48 minutes, a team like Dallas is going to practice better shot selection than a team like the Warriors. The best thing to do is have Dirk get the ball on the wing and take a two-step pull-up jumper, not set up on the low blocks and try to post up a smaller defender. He has weak post-up moves, he's at his best playing like a two in a four's body, which is what he is. When he posts up, it allows him to get swarmed by double teams.

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    Diop is a complete non-en y on offense. Magloire is not. It isn't all about the Spurs. What good does it do to be a "Spurs killer" if you can't advance far enough into the playoffs to face them? I thought we traded DeSagana Diop to New Jersey, not Bill Russell. Last I checked, Tim Duncan threw 32 and 15 on us in that playoff series. Nobody is going to stop him, but Spurs fans are lying if they think Magloire is going to be significantly worse racking up 6 fouls in 15 minutes of burn.
    Dallas doesn't need points out of their center. What they need is a shotblocker that can rebound and possibly defend post players though that isn't his best part of his game. Diop is the perfect center for what Dallas needs to cover up Dirk and Bass's defensive liabilities. I was hoping for Justin Williams as I think he has a good upside and he can shotblock.

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    Who on our team guarded Dirk in 03-04, and 04-05? It seems like he never really became a noticeable mismatch for us until 05-06.
    I think I missed our playoff battles in those years. Can you tell me what happened?

    All kidding aside, Dirk became a much bigger mismatch when he started to work on his post game. And while people might not think it has improved because of the GS series (not his fault, read above) he was phenomenal against Bowen and Marion in beating them down low. And I think this year his post game has become really good. I have seen him post up legitimate big men this year. And clearely no big, lumbering power player has ever had a chance against him.

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    Damn. The Mavs acquired a Duncan stopper just as the Spurs let go of their "Dirk stopper" When it rains it pours.
    Funny stuff.

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    We let go of the Parker stopper though. lol

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    We let go of the Parker stopper though. lol
    Yeah, this whole thing is getting confusing. Now we have Dirk going off for 60 a game, Parker going off for 50, and Duncan failing to score because of Magloire.

    The question is, who is going to be our Kurt Thomas stopper?

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    Yeah, this whole thing is getting confusing. Now we have Dirk going off for 60 a game, Parker going off for 50, and Duncan failing to score because of Magloire.

    The question is, who is going to be our Kurt Thomas stopper?
    Don't you know that is why we brough Malik Allen here. And with Barry possibly gone, how do you stop George from getting a tripple double.

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    I think I missed our playoff battles in those years. Can you tell me what happened?

    All kidding aside, Dirk became a much bigger mismatch when he started to work on his post game. And while people might not think it has improved because of the GS series (not his fault, read above) he was phenomenal against Bowen and Marion in beating them down low. And I think this year his post game has become really good. I have seen him post up legitimate big men this year. And clearely no big, lumbering power player has ever had a chance against him.
    I was talking regular season, I checked the boxscores and Dirk never seemed to bother us that much.

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    Magloire would make a great stopper.... for a bottle of Imodium.

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    I was talking regular season, I checked the boxscores and Dirk never seemed to bother us that much.
    Yet, w/out checking the boxscores, I remember a pretty effective Dirk againt the Spurs in the 03 WCF before he got hurt. Reg season games, are what they are. Duncan scores 16 sometimes against us in the reg season, but I know what the beast will do once the playoffs roll around.

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    Yet, w/out checking the boxscores, I remember a pretty effective Dirk againt the Spurs in the 03 WCF before he got hurt. Reg season games, are what they are. Duncan scores 16 sometimes against us in the reg season, but I know what the beast will do once the playoffs roll around.
    True, but there were no playoff matchups those years so that's all I had to go by.

    I barely remember the 2003 series, just bits and pieces of it. Especially not who guarded who

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    I coull be wrong, but I think the Mavs screwed themselves in the Kidd trade. The West has too many bigs (Duncan, Gasol-Bynum, Shaq-Amare) for the Mavs. To make it to the Finals, the Mavs would almost surely have to beat at least two of those teams.

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    Mavs never had (pre Kidd) and still don't have any dominant bigs. Nothing new there.

    Adding Magloire is at worst giving them 6 fouls and sparing Erica from playing 40 min.

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    True, but there were no playoff matchups those years so that's all I had to go by.

    I barely remember the 2003 series, just bits and pieces of it. Especially not who guarded who
    I remember 3 things: 1) Mavs hitting 49/50 FT's in Game 1. 2) Dirk being injured (I think we had a good chance to win the thing with him) and 3) Steve Kerr crushing my hopes in Game 6.

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    I'm going to go with a picture of Jamaal Magloire and the words "Duncan stopper" once sigs get turned back on.

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    Dallas doesn't need points out of their center.
    Uh, yes they do. Points in the paint are a valuable commodity, especially in the playoffs.

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    I agree with this.. they are a mess on and off the court.
    Great take Spurs fan

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailyd...ge=dime-080226

    Our chemistry is gone and these guys hate playing with Kidd.

    I don't know how long Cuban will be able to sustain the level of spending without winning anything.
    He's a billionaire that doesn't mind paying the luxury tax. Unless you're in his will, the do you care?

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    Uh, yes they do. Points in the paint are a valuable commodity, especially in the playoffs.
    Not as valuable as stopping the onslaught of great big men and slashers around the basket. The most important thing for a big man is defense. Especially help defense. Without that your team is in trouble. See Mavs of 03-04 and Suns of the last few years. They lacked a good defender at center and makes everyone elses job that much more dificult.

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    Magloire was brought in as 6 extra fouls, that's it. Im obviously biased but still i like the spurs chances because we have Tim, Manu, and Parker. im sure some people will disagree but we can argue about that more IF we meet in the playoffs.

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    I'd rank the West this way:

    1) San Antonio
    2) LA Lakers
    3) Dallas
    4) New Orleans
    5) Phoenix
    6) Utah
    7) Golden State
    8) Denver
    9) Houston

    I would've put Houston at #7 before Yao's injury.

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