Diop sounds off on Mavs

[Findog]

Rings speak louder than MVP trophies when it comes to clutch.

Why do you think the Mavs made the trade? To win more regular season games? When the game slows down in the postseason and points are harder to come by, who you do you want running your halfcourt offense, Jason Kidd or Devin Harris? One of the best floor generals in the league or a guy who telegraphs his passes? Our guys won't have to go iso and work their asses off to get decent looks, Kidd will do that work for them. Our late-game offensive execution against Miami and Golden State was awful. There are no guarantees, and this trade doesn't make us the favorites, but it gives us a fighting chance we didn't have.

[jag]

It's too early to say if the Mavs are going to be significantly worse on defense with Kidd and Magloire as opposed to Harris and Diop. Kidd is certainly better at defending big, physical guards like Baron and Kobe, while Harris is better suited for running with the quick guys like Parker, Barbosa, Paul, etc. And I'm not saying Kidd is going to shut anybody down, but Harris wouldn't either. Ask Dwyane Wade about Devin shutting him down.

Diop is a better shotblocker, Magloire is just as good a rebounder and can score, while Diop is a complete nonen y on offense. Part of the reason we lost to Golden State was a complete inability to get points in the paint.

Saying Harris and Diop are our most important players against San Antonio or any team for that matter over Dirk, Josh and Terry is comical.

We're not commenting from the perspective of Laker fan, GS fan, or suns fan...as a Spurs fan i realize who scored your points and who you're "big three" are. I also realize the athleticism of Harris that bothered parker on both ends of the floor, and the problems Diop gave Duncan with his D.

I guess you can decide to ignore that.

[Findog]

We're not commenting from the perspective of Laker fan, GS fan, or suns fan...as a Spurs fan i realize who scored your points and who you're "big three" are.

Well, if we got a ring just for beating the Spurs, I'd rather we stood pat. But we weren't going to beat the Lakers, and the Warriors and Suns would've been extremely tough.

I also realize the athleticism of Harris that bothered parker on both ends of the floor, and the problems Diop gave Duncan with his D.

I guess you can decide to ignore that.

Parker against the Mavs since the beginning of the western semis two years ago: 19 points and 4 assists per game. Devin against the Spurs since the beginning of that series: 12 points and 3 assists per game.

Parker in Game 7 against Dallas: 24 points, 5 assists, 1 turnover;

Harris in Game 7 against San Antonio: -- 2 points, 0 assists, 5 turnovers.

Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Erick Dampier, Devin Harris and Jerry Stackhouse are the reasons you lost, in that order. Diop came off the bench in overtime with fresh legs while Timmy was gassed. It was Erick Dampier who helped wear Timmy down. He's still here. I guess you can decide to ignore that.

[Mitch Cumsteen]

In what I consider a surprise of monumental proportions, Kidd's impact on the team has been overwhelmingly on the defensive side. For the year, the Mavericks defensive efficiency stands at 107.0, around tenth in the league, and about as good as they've done for the season. How has the defense looked with Kidd on the team? Here are the numbers: 114.3, 90.2, 92.2, 94.0.

Thanks for the link Findog, but color me unimpressed with shutting down Memphis, Minnesota, and Chicago. Those are three of the most incompetent offensive teams in the league.

[jag]

Well, if we got a ring just for beating the Spurs, I'd rather we stood pat. But we weren't going to beat the Lakers, and the Warriors and Suns would've been extremely tough.



Parker against the Mavs since the beginning of the western semis two years ago: 19 points and 4 assists per game. Devin against the Spurs since the beginning of that series: 12 points and 3 assists per game.

Parker in Game 7 against Dallas: 24 points, 5 assists, 1 turnover;

Harris in Game 7 against San Antonio: -- 2 points, 0 assists, 5 turnovers.

Dirk Nowitzki, Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Erick Dampier, Devin Harris and Jerry Stackhouse are the reasons you lost, in that order. Diop came off the bench in overtime with fresh legs while Timmy was gassed. It was Erick Dampier who helped wear Timmy down. He's still here. I guess you can decide to ignore that.

The defense of Devin Harris > Jason Kidd. Defense wins championships and you lost a lot of it with that trade. If you think no look passes are going to put you over the top you're in for a surprise.

[Findog]

Thanks for the link Findog, but color me unimpressed with shutting down Memphis, Minnesota, and Chicago. Those are three of the most incompetent offensive teams in the league.

Oh, I agree, it's way too early to make a definitive judgment about the Kidd trade until they play stiffer compe ion. We have 4 games in 5 nights: @ Spurs, vs. Kings, @ Lakers, @ Jazz. Hopefully I'm not a Gloomy Gus here on Tuesday. I'll take 2-2 in that stretch and be grateful.

[Findog]

The defense of Devin Harris > Jason Kidd.

That really depends on whom they're guarding. Devin Harris hasn't shut down anybody in the playoffs.

If you think no look passes are going to put you over the top you're in for a surprise.

That's right, that's all Kidd does is make highlight reel plays. He does nothing else.

[ShoogarBear]

Chicago Bulls, mono? What bet did you lose now?

[Findog]

Chicago Bulls, mono? What bet did you lose now?

No bet, it's making fun of Lakeshow. He claims Lakeshow is a Rockets fan posing as a Laker fan in order to post le smack.