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They should use Shaq as a 6th man. They need more speed in that starting lineup. I would add Barbosa or Diaw to it.
The Suns didn't either. You are aware of matching salaries in a trade, right?
Other than that,at the Suns.
They should use Shaq as a 6th man. They need more speed in that starting lineup. I would add Barbosa or Diaw to it.
Agree Sixers better than record and thank you Sixers for humiliating Dallas and now beating Suns!
The Suns were all hyped about getting the Hawks pick this year as a probable lottery pick. Wouldn't it be ironic if the Hawks make the playoffs and the Suns are waiting for a ping pong ball to appear because they did not?
And if you think it's bad now, wait until next year!
the trade cost them more than moneyTechnically, it was more like $3-5 million.
Dallas was on the road and missing four starters. What's Phoenix's excuse?
How much do I owe for this post?
SEA gets the Suns' pick this year
oh yes it is
Boy oh boy.............
It's actually Diaw and Shaq who have to make up the numbers. As I posted previously, neither of them can ever bring the intangibles that Marion did on the defensive end. It's beginnig to show in the most hideous of ways......
It's almost dusk.........
When you consider that the Suns are supposed to be competing with the likes of Dallas, LA , SA, Houston, and Utah......Umm, this wasn't as pathetic a loss for the Suns as people are making it. Sixers have been on a role recently and have beat realy good teams to get into the 8th playoff spot in the East.
My Sixers are finally showing some life!!
Yeah it's pathetic. The Sixers aren't championship contenders.
Not many Suns fans posting at ST these days, huh?
I except JMarkJohns, BillsCarnage, Xylus, Ron and the other good ones to come in and vent once they get over the shock and grief.Not many Suns fans posting at ST these days, huh?
The trolls may be gone for good.
I had my doubts on the Shaq trade. it's not that I don't think it can work, only that D'Antoni is too much of an idiot to maximize player's strengths. In all honesty, it's looking bad. It wouldn't shock me if they miss the playoffs. In the west, losing 6-or-7 out of 10 means a 5-to-6 spot fall in the standings, if not worse.
I'm could kill Sarver. I'm sick to death of D'Antoni. I'm just tired. I've never been homer, but this is wearing on me. I bleed for the Suns, but it's painful. They need so much it's not even funny. Go forward, they have so little to stay compe ive and/or improve that their demise will resemble the death of the Blues Mobile.
I mean, son of a ! It doesn't have to be this hard, but when money is your goal as an owner, and when ego is your driving force as a coach, it would literally take a miracle for the players to make right all the wrongs the ups have laid upon them and win. We're seeing what happens when the miracle doesn't come.
BTW, Anyone else think the Suns should have tried trading for Ben Wallace instead of Shaq? At least Wallace can still defend, block shots, run, has championship experience also......
No. The Suns made their bed this past offseason when they traded Thomas and James Jones along with three 1st-rounders for nothing.
Both Thomas and Jones were solid to good defenders and rebounders. Each could shoot, as well. Throw in those three 1sts to the half a dozen traded 1sts since 2004-05 and you have your reasons why the Suns even needed to make a trade at all.
There are so many scenarios that could have/would have likely made the Suns better, but whether it be failing to extend Joe Johnson to a six year, 50 million dollar offer in the 04-05 offseason (the offseason before he bolted for six years, 70 million), trading 1st rounder after 1st rounder, passing on players like Al Jefferson, Andre Iguodala, Luel Deng, Kevin Martin, David Lee, Jordan Farmar, Marcus Williams (the Nets PG), etc, etc, etc., or making terrible veteran signing after terrible veteran signing like Brian Grant, Eric Piatkowski, Marcus Banks, Sean Marks, Pat Burke - all for roughly 34 million in deals, then needing to trade 1sts to get them off the books... what the reason or combination of reasons, short of stealing a Gasol or Camby for something like Diaw/Banks and 1sts, I don't think the Suns would be in any better a position than they are with Shaq. Not even had they kept Marion. They may have won a few more games, but in all honesty they weren't winning a le the moment they traded Thomas and Jones and 1sts this offseason.
I've said it before, but had the Suns ups gone the best route, then their roster could be...
Steve Nash............. (04-05 contract signing, 6 years, 60 million - 10 per year)
Joe Johnson............ (04-05 contract extend, 6 years, 50 million - 8.5 per year)
Raja Bell................ (05-06 contract signing, 5 years, 24 million - 4.5 per year)
Leandro Barbosa..... (06-07 contract extend, 5 years, 30 million - 6.0 per year)
Shawn Marion......... (02-03 contract extend, 5 years, 75 million - 15 per year)
Amare Stoudemire.. (05-06 contract extend, 5 years, 70 million - 14 per year)
Al Jefferson............ (07-08 contract extend, 6 years, 60 million - 10 per year)
Jordan Farmar............ (06-07 draft selection, 4 years, 3 million - <1 per year)
David Lee.................. (05-06 draft selection, 4 years, 4 million - 1 per year)
So, remembering that this is worst case financial situation with Johnson, Barbosa, Jefferson, Amare and Marion's extensions all on the books, their team CAP total would be roughly 70 million, or approximately 8 million fewer than they are at right now. They'd have all their own picks for the future, so, even if they chose to let Marion walk for nothing, with all their young players locked in, they'd be in great shape for the present and future. Remember, this is worst case financial. Barbosa is just in his first year as an extended player and Jefferson isn't even in his yet. Realistically the Suns would be floating around 60-to-65 for much of their run, rather than 70-to-80 like they have been since 04-05.
And I kid you not when I say that all this was possible. But they traded the pick that could have turned into Jefferson. They balked on extending Johnson for 8 million a year, then traded him when his price jumped to 14 per year. They made terrible veteran signings, forcing them to part with valuable 1sts that could have turned into Lee and Farmar and future 1sts as well.
I'm telling you, I know some Spurs fans gripe and grumble when a move isn't made, or a player isn't signed, but the unbelievable inep ude of the Suns front office the past two or three seasons has literally been unrivaled. They just got lucky that Colangelo laid such a great foundation for success before selling the team. All Sarver has done is take a jack hammer to it in hopes of find treasure.
This is the kind of team rascal wants the SPurs to be
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