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    On what do you base your assertion?

    Because, the way I see it; the proof is in the Caucus. Obama did well in the caucus because the Republicans that voted in the Democratic Primary didn't show up for the Caucus. That means Hillary's showing in the Primary election is largely due to the Republicans that held their noses and voted for her.

    Sure, there were many Republicans voting for Obama but, Hillary took the Primary election because of the Republicans that voted for her.

    MSNBC exit polls in Texas:

    No matter how you voted today, do you usually think of yourself as

    Category Clinton Obama
    Democrat 53 46
    Republican 46 53
    Independent or something else 48 49

    See Republicans voted for Obama 53 to 46% and Democrats voted for Hillary 53 to 46% with independents almost tied (Obama 49 to 48). So even if you combine Reps and Inds they still supported Obama over Hillary. Her margin of victory among Democrats was greater than her margin in the overall election.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21226009

    Your claim is false based upon a flawed assumption.

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    I would agree. I don't think Powell is perceived as being all that closely aligned with Bush. He bailed after the first term, and was long rumored to be not entirely on board with the administrations policies.
    yeah, i like him. he was the only honest one that came out and admitted that the evidence for war was "deliberately misleading".

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    MSNBC exit polls in Texas:

    No matter how you voted today, do you usually think of yourself as

    Category Clinton Obama
    Democrat 53 46
    Republican 46 53
    Independent or something else 48 49

    See Republicans voted for Obama 53 to 46% and Democrats voted for Hillary 53 to 46% with independents almost tied (Obama 49 to 48). So even if you combine Reps and Inds they still supported Obama over Hillary. Her margin of victory among Democrats was greater than her margin in the overall election.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21226009

    Your claim is false based upon a flawed assumption.
    Well....

    2,818,599 people voted in the Democratic primary.

    Going by exit polls 22% of them self-identified as "conservative." Now, this doesn't necessarily represent the real number. People who are this devious are devious enough to lie on the exit polls. But, at least 22% of the electorate said they were conservative.

    Of that 22%, 52% said they voted for Clinton. Let's think about this. How many conservatives do you know love the Clintons? I can't think of a single one. Every conservative I know absolutely loathes them.

    Could this have effected the results?

    22% of 2,818,599 is 620,091.78
    52% of 620,091.78 is 322,447.73

    Rounding that is 322,448 conservative votes for Clinton.

    Clinton won Texas by 101,029 votes.

    The conservative vote for Clinton in TX was more than double her margin of victory.

    It's a similar story in Texas, where Limbaugh has the most listeners of any of these states. Obama won the Republican vote 52-47, but conservatives (22 percent of all voters, up from 15 percent in the Kerry-Edwards primary) went against Obama. For the first time since Super Tuesday, they were Clinton's best ideological group: She won them 53-43. And Clinton won 13 percent of the people who said Obama was the most electable candidate.

    Ohio didn't wind up being very close, but Clinton won the Texas primary by about 98,000 votes out of 2.8 million cast. If the exits are right, about 252,000 of those voters were Republicans, and about 618,000 were conservatives. Clinton truly might have won the Texas primary on the backs of Rush Limbaugh listeners.

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    22% of 2,818,599 is 620,091.78
    52% of 620,091.78 is 322,447.73

    Rounding that is 322,448 conservative votes for Clinton.

    Clinton won Texas by 101,029 votes.
    Sorry but based upon your numbers, Obama got 297,644 votes from conservatives. That means she only got 24,804 more votes from conservatives than he did- and her margin of victory then among those not considered conservative was about 80,000. So if only the non-conservatives voted, she still would have won. Try again.

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